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   Message 44,258 of 45,517   
   Will Dockery to All   
   Re: HarryLiar gives PPB some unsolicited   
   03 Jan 26 00:42:31   
   
   From: user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   > George J. Dance wrote:   
   >> Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:   
   >>> georgedance04@yahoo-dot-ca.no-spam.invalid (George J. Dance) wrote in   
   >>> news:0GCdnUTS89j0M8_0nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com   
   >>> Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:   
   >>>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >>>>> George J. Dance wrote:   
   >>>>>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >   
   > >>> I've just looked and don't see April Magazine anywhere on PPB   
   > >>> Do you have a link?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Sure, I have two links (since there were two issues):   
   > >>>   
   > >>> April, volume 1 (2010):   
   > >>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/   
   > >>>   
   > >>> April, volume 2 (2011):   
   > >>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2011/04/   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Now that HarryLiar's dropped out of the discussion, Will, I   
   > >>> hope we   
   > >>> can move on to some of the other points in the OP which he's tried   
   > >>> to bury. The most important one is his "advice" that I should take   
   > >>> all of your poems off the blog.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Not at all, in fact, I hope to contribute more poetry to PPB in   
   > >>> 2026.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Given you haven't donated anything but unspeakable sh*t so far,   
   > >>> when do you plan to compose your first one, Douchebag?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> As if you've read any of it.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> It's a question of whether I can read all the way through his   
   > >>> derivative, yet amazingly incoherent, nonsense.   
   > >>> But I have tried. Indeed I have!   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I ask that you show some pity, Douchebag Willie has called me a   
   > >>> "mailcious troll and cyberbully". I don't know how I can concentrate   
   > >>> without those hurtful words breaking up my thoughts and   
   > >>> concentration.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> In other words: "Curb your Douchebag, George!". And wipe up after.   
   > >>> Thanks for your attention to this matter.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I've tried to make some sense of this, but this is the best I can do:   
   > >>>   
   > >>> You've tried to read Will's poetry on the blog, but you've been unable   
   > >>> to concentrate because you keep remembering comments he's made   
   > >>> to you that hurt your feelings; so you've decided to call all of it   
   > >>> "unspeakable sh*t." I hope that's an accurate summary.   
   >   
   > >> PSSST! George!   
   > >> It's satire!   
   > >> HTH!   
   >   
   > > Effective satire often contains more than a grain of truth, Mr. Fries.   
   > > Pointing that out is nothing to get defensive over; after all, you wouldn't   
   > > be the first to let one's personal acquaintance with a poet get in the way   
   > > of appreciating his poetry. Look, for instance, at HarryLiar, who's popped   
   up   
   > > in this thread again. Notice that he doesn't like Will's poetry, either,   
   which   
   > > I'm sure he would claim has nothing to do with the fact that Will has   
   > > identified him (quite accurately) as one of the most malicious trolls on   
   > > Usenet.   
   >   
   > If your memory hasn't totally eroded, you'll recall that for the first few   
   years that I was with AAPC, I was allied with you and Will against PJR and   
   "The Regulars."   
   >   
   > You might also recall that I had refrained from commenting on Will's poetry,   
   until after he posted a link to a video/song version.   
   >   
   > I'm not going to try find the post, but I posted something addressed to Will   
   along the following lines:   
   >   
   > I've always avoided commenting on your poetry because I couldn't think of   
   anything positive to say about it.  Now that I've seen your video, I realize   
   that your poems are actually song lyrics -- and as song lyrics they work very   
   well as what I termed "   
   3 am bar music."  I also noted that his vocal delivery worked well with that   
   genre as well.   
   >   
   > Again, I wrote this when I was on Will's team, and I have repeated   
   variations of it many times since (including very recently).   
   >   
   > And I will restate it again:   
   >   
   > Will is a terrible poet.  However, his poetry works as 3 am bar song   
   lyrics.  I don't think Will should try to pass himself off as a poet.  He   
   hasn't got the requisite education/skills to write poetry, and he only ends up   
   making himself seem like a    
   pretentious, narcissistic fool.  He should, however, call himself a   
   songwriter, and speak of his poetry as "lyrics."  He'd come across as more   
   down to earth, and would piss people off a lot less.   
      
   Thanks again for the positive points, that was definitely "fair and balanced."   
      
   --   
   Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:   
   https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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