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   Message 44,263 of 45,517   
   Will Dockery to All   
   Re: HarryLiar gives PPB some unsolicited   
   03 Jan 26 03:16:06   
   
   From: user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   Cujo DeSockpuppet  posted:   
   > Will Dockery  wrote in   
   > news:1767400951-3274@newsgrouper.org:   
   > > mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   > >> George J. Dance wrote:   
   > >>> Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:   
   >>>>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:   
   > >>>>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >   
   > >> >>> I've just looked and don't see April Magazine anywhere on PPB   
   > >> >>> Do you have a link?   
   > >> >>>   
   > >> >>> Sure, I have two links (since there were two issues):   
   > >> >>>   
   > >> >>> April, volume 1 (2010):   
   > >> >>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/   
   > >> >>>   
   > >> >>> April, volume 2 (2011):   
   > >> >>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2011/04/   
   > >> >>>   
   > >> >>> Now that HarryLiar's dropped out of the discussion, Will, I   
   > >> >>> hope we   
   > >> >>> can move on to some of the other points in the OP which he's   
   > >> >>> tried to bury. The most important one is his "advice" that I   
   > >> >>> should take all of your poems off the blog.   
   > >> >>>   
   > >> >>> Not at all, in fact, I hope to contribute more poetry to PPB in   
   > >> >>> 2026.   
   > >> >>>   
   > >> >>> Given you haven't donated anything but unspeakable sh*t so far,   
   > >> >>> when do you plan to compose your first one, Douchebag?   
   > >> >>>   
   > >> >>> As if you've read any of it.   
   > >> >>>   
   > >> >>> It's a question of whether I can read all the way through his   
   > >> >>> derivative, yet amazingly incoherent, nonsense.   
   > >> >>> But I have tried. Indeed I have!   
   > >> >>>   
   > >> >>> I ask that you show some pity, Douchebag Willie has called me a   
   > >> >>> "mailcious troll and cyberbully". I don't know how I can   
   > >> >>> concentrate without those hurtful words breaking up my thoughts   
   > >> >>> and concentration.   
   > >> >>>   
   > >> >>> In other words: "Curb your Douchebag, George!". And wipe up   
   > >> >>> after. Thanks for your attention to this matter.   
   > >> >>>   
   > >> >>> I've tried to make some sense of this, but this is the best I can   
   > >> >>> do:   
   > >> >>>   
   > >> >>> You've tried to read Will's poetry on the blog, but you've been   
   > >> >>> unable to concentrate because you keep remembering comments he's   
   > >> >>> made to you that hurt your feelings; so you've decided to call   
   > >> >>> all of it "unspeakable sh*t." I hope that's an accurate summary.   
   > >>   
   > >> >> PSSST! George!   
   > >> >> It's satire!   
   > >> >> HTH!   
   > >>   
   > >> > Effective satire often contains more than a grain of truth, Mr.   
   > >> > Fries. Pointing that out is nothing to get defensive over; after   
   > >> > all, you wouldn't be the first to let one's personal acquaintance   
   > >> > with a poet get in the way of appreciating his poetry. Look, for   
   > >> > instance, at HarryLiar, who's popped up in this thread again.   
   > >> > Notice that he doesn't like Will's poetry, either, which I'm sure   
   > >> > he would claim has nothing to do with the fact that Will has   
   > >> > identified him (quite accurately) as one of the most malicious   
   > >> > trolls on Usenet.   
   > >>   
   > >> If your memory hasn't totally eroded, you'll recall that for the   
   > >> first few years that I was with AAPC, I was allied with you and Will   
   > >> against PJR and "The Regulars."   
   > >>   
   > >> You might also recall that I had refrained from commenting on Will's   
   > >> poetry, until after he posted a link to a video/song version.   
   > >>   
   > >> I'm not going to try find the post, but I posted something addressed   
   > >> to Will along the following lines:   
   > >>   
   > >> I've always avoided commenting on your poetry because I couldn't   
   > >> think of anything positive to say about it.  Now that I've seen your   
   > >> video, I realize that your poems are actually song lyrics -- and as   
   > >> song lyrics they work very well as what I termed "3 am bar music."  I   
   > >> also noted that his vocal delivery worked well with that genre as   
   > >> well.   
   > >>   
   > >> Again, I wrote this when I was on Will's team, and I have repeated   
   > >> variations of it many times since (including very recently).   
   > >>   
   > >> And I will restate it again:   
   > >>   
   > >> Will is a terrible poet.  However, his poetry works as 3 am bar song   
   > >> lyrics.  I don't think Will should try to pass himself off as a poet.   
   > >>  He hasn't got the requisite education/skills to write poetry, and he   
   > >> only ends up making himself seem like a pretentious, narcissistic   
   > >> fool.  He should, however, call himself a songwriter, and speak of   
   > >> his poetry as "lyrics."  He'd come across as more down to earth, and   
   > >> would piss people off a lot less.   
   > >   
   > > Thanks again for the positive points, that was definitely "fair and   
   > > balanced."   
   >   
   > "like a xxxxxxxxxx xxxxx xxxxx xxxxx   
      
   Says CujoDeSockpuppet, the low level troll and malicious cyberbully.   
      
   😏   
      
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