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|    Will Dockery to All    |
|    Re: Jazz Poetry    |
|    04 Jan 26 19:22:01    |
      From: user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid              mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:       > Will Dockery wrote:       > > Zodrslight.i2p wrote:       >       > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City_Blues       > >>       > >> "I want to be considered a jazz poet, blowing a long blues in an       afternoon jam session on Sunday. I take 242 choruses; my ideas vary and       sometimes roll from chorus to chorus or from halfway through a chorus to       halfway into the next." -Jack Kerouac       >       > > Fantastic quote about the Jack Kerouac writing method, which is still used       by poets to this day, for example, John Darnielle of the Mountain Goats:       > >       > > "Cold At Night" / The Mountain Goats       >       > > ***       >       > More mental masturbation from Jack.       >       > He has no more understanding of Jazz than he has of Buddhism (Dharma), but       nevertheless gets off on applying it to his poetry/lifestyle.       >       > I can see why he's your idol, as you're constantly doing the same thing.       >       > Jazz is based upon the concept that there are potentially infinite       variations within the framework of a given song. A jazz musician explores       those variations -- while *staying within the structure* of the musical piece.       >       > Like your own "unspeakable shit," Jack's poetry had no basic form for him to       perform variations (riffs) on.       >       > In order to have 242 choruses, you need to first have a basic structure or       form. You can't have a chorus, for example, without a verse.       >       > His description of pursuing ideas over multiple choruses, stopping them in       mid-chorus, etc., sounds more akin to the thought-fragment/word association       process of Fragmentism than to the variations of Jazz.       >       > He just liked the way that the label of "Jazz poet" sounded... much the same       way that you like calling yourself a poet.       >       > This is a response to the post seen at:       > http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=660030815#660030815              Okay, you probably know that I don't mind being compared with Jack Kerouac.              😏              --       Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:       https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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