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   Message 44,325 of 45,517   
   Will Dockery to All   
   Re: HarryLiar gives PPB some unsolicited   
   05 Jan 26 12:07:03   
   
   From: user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
      
   > Will Dockery wrote:   
   >> Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:   
   >>> will.dockery@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (Will-Dockery) wrote in   
   >>> news:QOidnawoR7ynNsT0nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com:   
   > >>> HarryLime wrote:   
   > >>>> Will Dockery  wrote in   
   > >>>> news:1767448711-3274@newsgrouper.org:   
   >>>>>>> Cujo DeSockpuppet  posted:   
   >>>>>>>> Will Dockery  wrote in   
   >>>>>>>> news:1767400153-3274@newsgrouper.org:   
   >>>>>>>>> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   > >>>>>>>> George J. Dance wrote:   
   >   
   > >>> I've just looked and don't see April Magazine anywhere   
   > >>> on PPB Do you have a link?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Sure, I have two links (since there were two issues):   
   > >>>   
   > >>> April, volume 1 (2010):   
   > >>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2010/04/   
   > >>>   
   > >>> April, volume 2 (2011):   
   > >>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2011/04/   
   > >>>   
   > >>> GJD: Now that HarryLiar's dropped out of the discussion,   
   > >>> Will, I hope we   
   > >>> can move on to some of the other points in the OP which   
   > >>> he's tried to bury. The most important one is his   
   > >>> "advice" that I should take all of your poems off the   
   > >>> blog.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Dockery: Not at all, in fact, I hope to contribute more poetry   
   > >>> to PPB in 2026.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> GJD: I've tried to make some sense of this, but this is the   
   > >>> best I can do:   
   > >>>   
   > >>> GJD: You've tried to read Will's poetry on the blog, but   
   > >>> you've been unable to concentrate because you keep   
   > >>> remembering comments he's made to you that hurt your   
   > >>> feelings; so you've decided to call all of it   
   > >>> "unspeakable sh*t." I hope that's an accurate summary.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> CujoDeSockpuppet: PSSST! George!   
   > >>> It's satire!   
   > >>> HTH!   
   > >>>   
   > >>> GJD: Effective satire often contains more than a grain of   
   > >>> truth, Mr. Fries.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> CujoDeSockpuppet: Not always but your refusal to see the following as   
   true   
   > >>> kind of makes me question your objectiity and   
   > >>> impartiality.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> CujoDeSockpuppet: Is the statement true?   
   > >>> "... has called me a "malicious troll and   
   > >>> cyberbully"   
   > >>>   
   > >>> GJD: It's true that Will's called you that.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Y/N? <- HAS HE EVER!!!!   
   > >>>   
   > >>> GJD: There's also more than a grain of truth that he's upset you   
   > >>> for some reason. You wouldn't be frothing and flailing about   
   > >>> like this otherwise.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> GJD: Pointing that out is nothing to get defensive over; after   
   > >>> all, you wouldn't be the first to let one's personal   
   > >>> acquaintance with a poet get in the way of appreciating   
   > >>> his poetry. Look, for instance, at HarryLiar, who's   
   > >>> popped up in this thread again. Notice that he doesn't   
   > >>> like Will's poetry, either, which I'm sure he would claim   
   > >>> has nothing to do with the fact that Will has identified   
   > >>> him (quite accurately) as one of the most malicious   
   > >>> trolls on Usenet.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> CujoDeSockpuppet: Pendragon a troll? And one of the most malicious ones   
   too?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> GJD: Indeed; HarryLiar is one of the worst pieces of sh*t I've   
   > >>> seen here. But call him that, and you'll find him trashing   
   > >>> your poetry, too; and don't even think of him "publishing"   
   > >>> you again.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Harry Lime: You falsely claimed that "AYoS" only published people that   
   > >>> the editors were friends with -- which was blatantly untrue   
   > >>> -- especially since your poetry was still in our current   
   > >>> print issue at that time.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> [...] were not banned for anything   
   > >>> they said about me, but because they continually interrupted   
   > >>> "The Sunday Sampler" whenever Jim would "X" one of their   
   > >>> poems.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Dockery: Again, as Zod accurately observed, Jim Senetto was a control   
   freak   
   > >>> on an ego trip with the SS.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> CujoDeSockpuppet: I'd been the one to make the decision to ban you.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Dockery: I don't remember you having the power to ban people from the   
   S.S.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> CujoDeSockpuppet: It was my week in charge   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Dockery: You had the power to ban people during that week?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Banned from what, a Usenet thread?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Harry Lime: You know damn well that The Sunday Sampler was a usenet   
   magazine that   
   > >>> simply used a thread as its forum.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Dockery: Okay, so you banned me, as was expected from the start,   
   basically.   
   >   
   > >> CujoDeSockpuppet: Who expected it   
   >   
   > > I did, and obviously so did Zod.   
   > >   
   > > He nailed the S.S. as being run by Jim Senetto, "a control freak on an ego   
   trip."   
   > >   
   > > And so it goes.   
   >   
   > And like I said, xxxxxxxxxx, that attitude is why you got yourself banned.   
      
   Banned by a "control freak on an ego trip," right.   
      
   > The Sunday Sampler was a *magazine,* not a Usenet thread.   
      
   At the time it was a weekly thread *here* on Usenet.   
      
   > Magazines have guidelines.   
      
   Usenet newsgroup threads don't, of course.   
      
   > You and xxxxxxx felt that Jim was imposing guidelines on AAPC, so you   
   balked, and did everything you could to undermine them.   
      
   Not really, see above for the main problem Zod and I had.   
      
   > But Jim was laying the foundations for a magazine.  And those of us who   
   treated it as such, found it to be the most rewarding Usenet experience.   
      
   To each his own, of course.   
      
   > Those who didn't (you and your Stink) missed out on something truly special.   
      
   I posted poetry on the thread, which was rejected for various reasons, often   
   the reasons were as Zod described it, because Jim Senetto was a control freak   
   on an ego trip.   
      
   So, obviously, we were eventually banned for objecting to the rules we didn't   
   agree with.   
      
   > And so it went.   
      
   Exactly.   
      
   > This is a response to the post seen at:   
   > http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=699391551#699391551   
      
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   Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:   
   https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery   
      
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