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   mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   > Will Dockery wrote:   
   > > mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   > >> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >   
   > >> Apple Montage   
   > >>   
   > >> Sneaking around   
   > >> with Cousin Jenny,   
   > >> smoking menthol   
   > >> beyond the sheds.   
   > >>   
   > >> Late summer vacation 1973   
   > >> in the backwoods of Tennessee.   
   > >>   
   > >> To the right   
   > >> behind the barn   
   > >> were apple trees.   
   > >>   
   > >> There were several   
   > >> of those trees   
   > >> and other trees   
   > >> behind them   
   > >> beyond a field   
   > >> and behind them, other trees.   
   > >>   
   > >> Later, I stood near   
   > >> as a crowd   
   > >> watched Pops and my Uncle   
   > >> cooking apple butter;   
   > >> stirring the brown gunk,   
   > >> boiling in a huge black kettle.   
   > >>   
   > >> I saw my father   
   > >> secretly pass   
   > >> a wine bottle   
   > >> to my Uncle Clarence.   
   > >>   
   > >> I went from   
   > >> breathing cold mist   
   > >> out back behind the barn,   
   > >> to breathing   
   > >> the hot misty steam.   
   > >>   
   > >> The air smelled of apple fumes   
   > >> and strong booze.   
   > >>   
   > >> -Will Dockery   
   > >>   
   > >> And here I thought you were going to ask if you could use my de-cluttered   
   version for your next Twitter poem.   
   > >>   
   > >> No, I wrote about the clutter in the thread, not the poem.   
   > >>   
   > >> The poem is an almost perfect poetry montage as it is..   
      
   Here ^^^   
      
   > > This is still obvious ^^^   
   >   
   > >> Define "poetry montage."   
   >   
   > > See my poem "Apple Montage" for an example of ause of montage in poetry.   
      
   Here ^^^   
      
   > >> Wikipedia is a good start on defining "montage":   
   > >>   
   > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montage_(filmmaking)   
   > >>   
   > >> Here is Wikipedia's definition (as per your link):   
   > >>   
   > >> "A montage (/m'nˈt'ː'/ mon-TAHZH) is a film editing technique in which   
   a series of short shots are sequenced to condense space, time, and   
   information. Montages enable filmmakers to communicate a large amount of   
   information to an audience over a    
   shorter span of time by juxtaposing different shots, compressing time through   
   editing, or intertwining multiple storylines of a narrative.   
   > >>   
   > >> "The term has varied meanings depending on the filmmaking tradition. In   
   French, the word montage applied to cinema simply denotes editing. In Soviet   
   montage theory, as originally introduced outside the USSR by Sergei   
   Eisenstein,[1] it was used to    
   create symbolism.[2] Later, the term "montage sequence", used primarily by   
   British and American studios, became the common technique to suggest the   
   passage of time.[3]   
   > >>   
   > >> "From the 1930s to the 1950s, montage sequences often combined numerous   
   short shots with special optical effects (fades/dissolves, split screens,   
   double and triple exposures), dance, and music."   
   > >>   
   > >> Your poem does not even suggest any of the above.   
   > >>   
   > >> The closest your poem comes to having a montage would be a series of lap   
   dissolves showing the trees behind trees behind trees -- which is merely a   
   bridge between the two scenes depicted, and which has *no* apples mentioned in   
   it.   
   > >>   
   > >> As previously pointed out, this is not an example of montage poetry, does   
   not contain an example of a montage in it, and is 100% apple free.   
   > >>   
   > >> You really need to read the articles you link before posting them.   
   >   
   > >> This is a response to the post seen at:   
   > >> http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=659653060#659653060   
   >   
   > > My poem definitely used montage, this is an argument that is apparently   
   ongoing.   
   >   
   > This argument was settled long ago.   
      
   Interesting that I was watching a television program about Orson Welles just   
   last night, where montage was mentioned.   
      
   Like it or not, my poem does use montage.   
      
   HTH and HAND.   
      
   --   
   Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:   
   https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery   
      
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