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   mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   > Will Dockery wrote:   
   > > mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   > >> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >   
   > >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City_Blues   
   > >>   
   > >> "I want to be considered a jazz poet, blowing a long blues in an   
   afternoon jam session on Sunday. I take 242 choruses; my ideas vary and   
   sometimes roll from chorus to chorus or from halfway through a chorus to   
   halfway into the next." -Jack Kerouac   
   > >>   
   > >> This method produced some spectacular poetry.   
   > >>   
   > >> Some of the best of all time...   
   > >>   
   > >> Just becaue   
   > >> doesn't make magically make it true, Donkey.   
   >   
   > > Just as your whining about it doesn't make anything true, either.   
   > >   
   > >> As I stated earlier:   
   > >>   
   > >> More mental masturbation from Jack.   
   > >>   
   > >> He has no more understanding of Jazz than he has of Buddhism (Dharma),   
   but nevertheless gets off on applying it to his poetry/lifestyle.   
   > >>   
   > >> I can see why he's your idol, as you're constantly doing the same thing.   
   > >>   
   > >> Jazz is based upon the concept that there are potentially infinite   
   variations within the framework of a given song. A jazz musician explores   
   those variations -- while *staying within the structure* of the musical piece.   
   > >>   
   > >> Like your own "unspeakable sh*t," Jack's poetry had no basic form for him   
   to perform variations (riffs) on.   
   > >>   
   > >> In order to have 242 choruses, you need to first have a basic structure   
   or form. You can't have a chorus, for example, without a verse.   
   > >>   
   > >> His description of pursuing ideas over multiple choruses, stopping them   
   in mid-chorus, etc., sounds more akin to the thought-fragment/word association   
   process of Fragmentism than to the variations of Jazz.   
   > >>   
   > >> He just liked the way that the label of "Jazz poet" sounded... much the   
   same way that you like calling yourself a poet.   
   > >>   
   > >> Agreed.   
   >   
   > > Jack Kerouac was an avid jazz fan so I think he knew what else was talking   
   about.   
   > >   
   > > You're a Pat Boone fan, which has far less credibility.   
   >   
   > I've got plenty of jazz records in my collection   
      
   Just because you have a few jazz records doesn't meN you understand them like   
   Jack Kerouac did.   
      
   --   
   Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:   
   https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery   
      
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