From: cujo@petitmorte.net   
      
   nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) wrote in   
   news:7LKdnWEpUu-T5vz0nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com:   
      
   >> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   >>   
   >>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >>> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   >>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City_Blues   
   >>>   
   >>> "I want to be considered a jazz poet, blowing a long blues in an   
   >>> afternoon jam session on Sunday. I take 242 choruses; my ideas vary   
   >>> and sometimes roll from chorus to chorus or from halfway through a   
   >>> chorus to halfway into the next." -Jack Kerouac   
   >>>   
   >>> This method produced some spectacular poetry.   
   >>>   
   >>> Some of the best of all time...   
   >>>   
   >>> Just becaue   
   >>> doesn't make magically make it true, Donkey.   
   >>>   
   >>> Just as your whining about it doesn't make anything true, either.   
   >>>   
   >>> As I stated earlier:   
   >>>   
   >>> More mental masturbation from Jack.   
   >>>   
   >>> He has no more understanding of Jazz than he has of Buddhism   
   >>> (Dharma), but nevertheless gets off on applying it to his   
   >>> poetry/lifestyle.   
   >>>   
   >>> I can see why he's your idol, as you're constantly doing the same   
   >>> thing.   
   >>>   
   >>> Jazz is based upon the concept that there are potentially infinite   
   >>> variations within the framework of a given song. A jazz musician   
   >>> explores those variations -- while *staying within the structure* of   
   >>> the musical piece.   
   >>>   
   >>> Like your own "unspeakable sh*t," Jack's poetry had no basic form   
   >>> for him to perform variations (riffs) on.   
   >>>   
   >>> In order to have 242 choruses, you need to first have a basic   
   >>> structure or form. You can't have a chorus, for example, without a   
   >>> verse.   
   >>>   
   >>> His description of pursuing ideas over multiple choruses, stopping   
   >>> them in mid-chorus, etc., sounds more akin to the   
   >>> thought-fragment/word association process of Fragmentism than to the   
   >>> variations of Jazz.   
   >>>   
   >>> He just liked the way that the label of "Jazz poet" sounded... much   
   >>> the same way that you like calling yourself a poet.   
   >>>   
   >>> Agreed.   
   >>>   
   >>> Jack Kerouac was an avid jazz fan so I think he knew what else was   
   >>> talking about.   
   >>>   
   >>> You're a Pat Boone fan, which has far less credibility.   
   >>>   
   >>> I've got plenty of jazz records in my collection   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> Just because you have a few jazz records doesn't meN you understand   
   >> them like Jack Kerouac did.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > Drunk posting!  Or, Will Donkey is thinking about MEN again (is   
   > Jordy's Uncle not man enough for him?).   
      
   I think they're pretty fluid when it comes to gender and species down   
   that way.   
      
   --   
   "The fact that it doesn't apply to the poem is of little consequence to   
   you, because your poems don't have a literary basis, because you're   
   functionally illiterate and haven't got a clue as to what a poem is." -   
   Little Willie Douchebag gets another asskicking from Pendragon   
      
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