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   nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) wrote in   
   > news:7LKdnWEpUu-T5vz0nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com:   
   > Will Dockery wrote:   
   >> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   >>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >   
   > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City_Blues   
   > >>>   
   > >>> "I want to be considered a jazz poet, blowing a long blues in an   
   > >>> afternoon jam session on Sunday. I take 242 choruses; my ideas vary   
   > >>> and sometimes roll from chorus to chorus or from halfway through a   
   > >>> chorus to halfway into the next." -Jack Kerouac   
   > >>>   
   > >>> This method produced some spectacular poetry.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Some of the best of all time...   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Just becaue   
   > >>> doesn't make magically make it true, Donkey.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Just as your whining about it doesn't make anything true, either.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> As I stated earlier:   
   > >>>   
   > >>> More mental masturbation from Jack.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> He has no more understanding of Jazz than he has of Buddhism   
   > >>> (Dharma), but nevertheless gets off on applying it to his   
   > >>> poetry/lifestyle.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I can see why he's your idol, as you're constantly doing the same   
   > >>> thing.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Jazz is based upon the concept that there are potentially infinite   
   > >>> variations within the framework of a given song. A jazz musician   
   > >>> explores those variations -- while *staying within the structure* of   
   > >>> the musical piece.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Like your own "unspeakable sh*t," Jack's poetry had no basic form   
   > >>> for him to perform variations (riffs) on.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> In order to have 242 choruses, you need to first have a basic   
   > >>> structure or form. You can't have a chorus, for example, without a   
   > >>> verse.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> His description of pursuing ideas over multiple choruses, stopping   
   > >>> them in mid-chorus, etc., sounds more akin to the   
   > >>> thought-fragment/word association process of Fragmentism than to the   
   > >>> variations of Jazz.   
   > >>>   
   >   
   > >>> Jack Kerouac was an avid jazz fan so I think he knew what else was   
   > >>> talking about.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> You're a Pat Boone fan, which has far less credibility.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I've got plenty of jazz records in my collection.   
   >   
   >> Just because you have a few jazz records doesn't mean you understand   
   >> them like Jack Kerouac did.   
      
   (Typo corrected.)   
      
   > Drunk posting   
      
   Just a typo, now corrected.   
      
   😏   
      
      
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