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   Message 44,426 of 45,517   
   Cujo DeSockpuppet to Will Dockery   
   Re: Jazz Poetry   
   10 Jan 26 01:08:26   
   
   From: cujo@petitmorte.net   
      
   Will Dockery  wrote in   
   news:1768003533-3274@newsgrouper.org:   
      
   >   
   > nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) wrote in   
   >> news:7LKdnWEpUu-T5vz0nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com:   
   >> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >>> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   >>>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City_Blues   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> "I want to be considered a jazz poet, blowing a long blues in an   
   >> >>> afternoon jam session on Sunday. I take 242 choruses; my ideas   
   >> >>> vary and sometimes roll from chorus to chorus or from halfway   
   >> >>> through a chorus to halfway into the next." -Jack Kerouac   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> This method produced some spectacular poetry.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Some of the best of all time...   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Just becaue   
   >> >>> doesn't make magically make it true, Donkey.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Just as your whining about it doesn't make anything true, either.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> As I stated earlier:   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> More mental masturbation from Jack.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> He has no more understanding of Jazz than he has of Buddhism   
   >> >>> (Dharma), but nevertheless gets off on applying it to his   
   >> >>> poetry/lifestyle.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> I can see why he's your idol, as you're constantly doing the same   
   >> >>> thing.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Jazz is based upon the concept that there are potentially   
   >> >>> infinite variations within the framework of a given song. A jazz   
   >> >>> musician explores those variations -- while *staying within the   
   >> >>> structure* of the musical piece.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Like your own "unspeakable sh*t," Jack's poetry had no basic form   
   >> >>> for him to perform variations (riffs) on.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> In order to have 242 choruses, you need to first have a basic   
   >> >>> structure or form. You can't have a chorus, for example, without   
   >> >>> a verse.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> His description of pursuing ideas over multiple choruses,   
   >> >>> stopping them in mid-chorus, etc., sounds more akin to the   
   >> >>> thought-fragment/word association process of Fragmentism than to   
   >> >>> the variations of Jazz.   
   >> >>>   
   >>   
   >> >>> Jack Kerouac was an avid jazz fan so I think he knew what else   
   >> >>> was talking about.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> You're a Pat Boone fan, which has far less credibility.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> I've got plenty of jazz records in my collection.   
   >>   
   >>> Just because you have a few jazz records doesn't meN you understand   
   >>> them like Jack Kerouac did.   
   >   
   > (Typo corrected.)   
   >   
   >> Drunk posting!  Or, Will Donkey is thinking about MEN again (is   
   >> Jordy's Uncle not man enough for him?).   
   >   
   > Just a typo, now corrected.   
      
   I put it back, Douchebag. Along with her reply that you snipped.   
      
   Why are you so stupid?   
      
   --   
   "The fact that it doesn't apply to the poem is of little consequence to   
   you, because your poems don't have a literary basis, because you're   
   functionally illiterate and haven't got a clue as to what a poem is." -   
   Little Willie Douchebag gets another asskicking from Pendragon   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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