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   Message 44,436 of 45,517   
   Cujo DeSockpuppet to Will Dockery   
   Re: Jazz Poetry   
   10 Jan 26 22:01:45   
   
   From: cujo@petitmorte.net   
      
   Will Dockery  wrote in   
   news:1768077876-3274@newsgrouper.org:   
      
   f>   
   > Cujo DeSockpuppet  posted:   
   >> Will Dockery  wrote in   
   >> news:1768024884-3274@newsgrouper.org:   
   >>> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   >>>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City_Blues   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >>> "I want to be considered a jazz poet, blowing a long blues in   
   >> >> >>> an afternoon jam session on Sunday. I take 242 choruses; my   
   >> >> >>> ideas vary and sometimes roll from chorus to chorus or from   
   >> >> >>> halfway through a chorus to halfway into the next." -Jack   
   >> >> >>> Kerouac   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >>> This method produced some spectacular poetry.   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >>> Some of the best of all time...   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >>> Jazz is based upon the concept that there are potentially   
   >> >> >>> infinite variations within the framework of a given song. A   
   >> >> >>> jazz musician explores those variations -- while *staying   
   >> >> >>> within the structure* of the musical piece.   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >>> In order to have 242 choruses, you need to first have a basic   
   >> >> >>> structure or form. You can't have a chorus, for example,   
   >> >> >>> without a verse.   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >>> His description of pursuing ideas over multiple choruses,   
   >> >> >>> stopping them in mid-chorus, etc., sounds more akin to the   
   >> >> >>> thought-fragment/word association process of Fragmentism than   
   >> >> >>> to the variations of Jazz.   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >>> Jack Kerouac was an avid jazz fan so I think he knew what else   
   >> >> >>> was talking about.   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >>> You're a Pat Boone fan, which has far less credibility.   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >>> I've got plenty of jazz records in my collection   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >> Just because you have a few jazz records doesn't mean you   
   >> >> >> understand them like Jack Kerouac did.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> I think they're pretty fluid when it comes to gender and species   
   >> >> down that way.   
   >> > You also obsess, lie and misrepresent, Kevin Fries.   
   >>   
   >> You're the proven stalker and liar, you change people's words to   
   "misrepresent" what they say and you're a douchebag, douchebag.   
      
   >> Projection noted.   
      
   > Not really, that's a misrepresentation, Kevin.   
      
   You snipped out my words to misrepresent what I've said repeatedly,   
   Douchebag.   
      
   > Your friend NancyGene is a proven, malicious stalker of multiple   
   > people including my friends and family.   
      
   Where's your proof?   
      
   > You yourself have threatened to stalk me and my family, Kevin Fries.   
      
   I asked if you wanted me to contact them to disprove one of your many   
   lies, Douchebag.   
      
   > That's apparently okay with you, though, Kevin.   
      
   It was perfectly fine to stalk me, Douchebag?   
      
   You lose again.   
      
      
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   you, because your poems don't have a literary basis, because you're   
   functionally illiterate and haven't got a clue as to what a poem is." -   
   Little Willie Douchebag gets another asskicking from Pendragon   
      
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