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   nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) posted:   
      
   > Will Dockery wrote:   
   >> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   >>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >>>> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   > >>>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >   
   > >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City_Blues   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> "I want to be considered a jazz poet, blowing a long blues in an   
   afternoon jam session on Sunday. I take 242 choruses; my ideas vary and   
   sometimes roll from chorus to chorus or from halfway through a chorus to   
   halfway into the next." -Jack Kerouac   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> This method produced some spectacular poetry.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Some of the best of all time...   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Just becaue   
   > >>>> doesn't make magically make it true, Donkey.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Just as your whining about it doesn't make anything true, either.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> As I stated earlier:   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> More mental masturbation from Jack.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> He has no more understanding of Jazz than he has of Buddhism (Dharma),   
   but nevertheless gets off on applying it to his poetry/lifestyle.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> I can see why he's your idol, as you're constantly doing the same thing.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Jazz is based upon the concept that there are potentially infinite   
   variations within the framework of a given song. A jazz musician explores   
   those variations -- while *staying within the structure* of the musical piece.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Like your own "unspeakable sh*t," Jack's poetry had no basic form for   
   him to perform variations (riffs) on.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> In order to have 242 choruses, you need to first have a basic structure   
   or form. You can't have a chorus, for example, without a verse.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> His description of pursuing ideas over multiple choruses, stopping them   
   in mid-chorus, etc., sounds more akin to the thought-fragment/word association   
   process of Fragmentism than to the variations of Jazz.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> He just liked the way that the label of "Jazz poet" sounded... much the   
   same way that you like calling yourself a poet.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Agreed.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Jack Kerouac was an avid jazz fan so I think he knew what else was   
   talking about.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> You're a Pat Boone fan, which has far less credibility.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> I've got plenty of jazz records in my collection.   
      
   I have quite a few jazz records in mine as well if that counts.   
      
   [...]   
      
   > Is there a question mark in the M/F/X category   
      
   Look who's talking, NancyGene an anonymous troll who claims to be female.   
      
   😏   
      
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