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   Message 44,474 of 45,517   
   Will Dockery to All   
   Re: Jazz Poetry   
   11 Jan 26 18:22:42   
   
   From: user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) posted:   
   > Will Dockery wrote:   
   >> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   >>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >>>> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   >>>>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >   
   > >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City_Blues   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> "I want to be considered a jazz poet, blowing a long blues in an   
   afternoon jam session on Sunday. I take 242 choruses; my ideas vary and   
   sometimes roll from chorus to chorus or from halfway through a chorus to   
   halfway into the next." -Jack Kerouac   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> This method produced some spectacular poetry.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Some of the best of all time...   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Just becaue   
   > >>>>> doesn't make magically make it true, Donkey.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Just as your whining about it doesn't make anything true, either.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> As I stated earlier:   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> More mental masturbation from Jack.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> He has no more understanding of Jazz than he has of Buddhism (Dharma),   
   but nevertheless gets off on applying it to his poetry/lifestyle.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> I can see why he's your idol, as you're constantly doing the same   
   thing.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Jazz is based upon the concept that there are potentially infinite   
   variations within the framework of a given song. A jazz musician explores   
   those variations -- while *staying within the structure* of the musical piece.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Like your own "unspeakable sh*t," Jack's poetry had no basic form for   
   him to perform variations (riffs) on.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> In order to have 242 choruses, you need to first have a basic   
   structure or form. You can't have a chorus, for example, without a verse.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> His description of pursuing ideas over multiple choruses, stopping   
   them in mid-chorus, etc., sounds more akin to the thought-fragment/word   
   association process of Fragmentism than to the variations of Jazz.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> He just liked the way that the label of "Jazz poet" sounded... much   
   the same way that you like calling yourself a poet.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Agreed.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Jack Kerouac was an avid jazz fan so I think he knew what else was   
   talking about.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> You're a Pat Boone fan, which has far less credibility.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> I've got plenty of jazz records in my collection   
   >   
   > >>>> Just because you have a few jazz records doesn't mean you understand   
   them like Jack Kerouac did.   
      
   "We corrected our error."   
      
   > >> I don't think anyone has ever considered Jordy's emoji-pooping Uncle to   
   be manly.   
   > >   
   > > Is there a question mark in the M/F/X category   
      
   Is there one on yours?   
      
   > Jordy's Uncle has gender confusion   
      
   Again, like an anonymous troll like you had any room to criticize someone   
   else's gender identity.   
      
   For all we know, you're really just an old man pretending to be "Nancy Gene."   
      
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   https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery   
      
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