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|    Message 44,474 of 45,517    |
|    Will Dockery to All    |
|    Re: Jazz Poetry    |
|    11 Jan 26 18:22:42    |
      From: user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid              nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) posted:       > Will Dockery wrote:       >> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:       >>> Will Dockery wrote:       >>>> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:       >>>>> Will Dockery wrote:       >       > >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico_City_Blues       > >>>>>       > >>>>> "I want to be considered a jazz poet, blowing a long blues in an       afternoon jam session on Sunday. I take 242 choruses; my ideas vary and       sometimes roll from chorus to chorus or from halfway through a chorus to       halfway into the next." -Jack Kerouac       > >>>>>       > >>>>> This method produced some spectacular poetry.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> Some of the best of all time...       > >>>>>       > >>>>> Just becaue       > >>>>> doesn't make magically make it true, Donkey.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> Just as your whining about it doesn't make anything true, either.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> As I stated earlier:       > >>>>>       > >>>>> More mental masturbation from Jack.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> He has no more understanding of Jazz than he has of Buddhism (Dharma),       but nevertheless gets off on applying it to his poetry/lifestyle.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> I can see why he's your idol, as you're constantly doing the same       thing.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> Jazz is based upon the concept that there are potentially infinite       variations within the framework of a given song. A jazz musician explores       those variations -- while *staying within the structure* of the musical piece.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> Like your own "unspeakable sh*t," Jack's poetry had no basic form for       him to perform variations (riffs) on.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> In order to have 242 choruses, you need to first have a basic       structure or form. You can't have a chorus, for example, without a verse.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> His description of pursuing ideas over multiple choruses, stopping       them in mid-chorus, etc., sounds more akin to the thought-fragment/word       association process of Fragmentism than to the variations of Jazz.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> He just liked the way that the label of "Jazz poet" sounded... much       the same way that you like calling yourself a poet.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> Agreed.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> Jack Kerouac was an avid jazz fan so I think he knew what else was       talking about.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> You're a Pat Boone fan, which has far less credibility.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> I've got plenty of jazz records in my collection       >       > >>>> Just because you have a few jazz records doesn't mean you understand       them like Jack Kerouac did.              "We corrected our error."              > >> I don't think anyone has ever considered Jordy's emoji-pooping Uncle to       be manly.       > >       > > Is there a question mark in the M/F/X category              Is there one on yours?              > Jordy's Uncle has gender confusion              Again, like an anonymous troll like you had any room to criticize someone       else's gender identity.              For all we know, you're really just an old man pretending to be "Nancy Gene."              --       Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:       https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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