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|    Will Dockery to All    |
|    Re: To The Sea Angel / Will Dockery    |
|    11 Feb 26 01:08:42    |
      From: user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid              mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:              > Will Dockery wrote:       >> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:       >>> Will Dockery wrote:       >       > >>>>> To the Sea Angel       > >>>>>       > >>>>> Riptide waves,       > >>>>> there goes the sea angel,       > >>>>> right above the waves.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> These mystery years,       > >>>>> where would I be without them?       > >>>>> What if I'd stayed happy?       > >>>>>       > >>>>> Years lost,       > >>>>> these last few I've played catch up,       > >>>>> drifting from the shore.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> Barnacles on an olive shell,       > >>>>> brain choral in my mind.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> Instrumental tune,       > >>>>> made by the incoming waves.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> I tossed a starfish back in,       > >>>>> watched it twirl away,       > >>>>> and thought of you.       > >>>>>       > >>>>> -Will Dockery (1997)       > >>>>>       > >>>>> ***       > >>>>       > >>> MMP: "Monkey" has often been used as a racial slur.       > >>>       > >>> Historically, various minorities have been depicted as possessing       ape-like features.              I've seen many of those.              > >>> Minorities that have been depicted in this fashion include J*ws,       Irishmen, Italians, and during WWII, the Japanese.              As a lifelong comix reader I've seen some really outrageous stereotype       characters.              Just recently the unfortunate use of the character Ebony in the classic comic       series The Spirit by Will Eisner has been under scrutiny, I'll post some links       if you're interested.              > >> Dockery: I haven't seen these other specific depictions.       > >>       > >> MMP: There are many things you're unfamiliar with, Donkey.       > >>       > >> Dockery: Where does this put the "Planet of the Apes" series in modern       times?       > >>       > >> MMP: The same place "Monkey Planet" was when Pierre Boulle wrote it. It       was intended as a comment on racism. If there was any doubt, "Conquest of the       Planet of the Apes" made the parallels unmistakably clear.              The original novel of "Planet of the Apes" is a long time favorite if mine, I       still have a copy on my shelf.              > >> I don't remember any accusations of racism in comments on those books and       movies.       > >>       > >> Dockery: The use of the word monkey as racist seems mostly fairly recent.       > >       > > MMP: It's mostly from the caricatures of the 19th and early 20th       centuries. By the mid-20th century (post WWII), racial stereotypes were       actively discouraged.       > >       > > In 1990, I almost got thrown out of college for writing a satirical letter       to the editor of the school paper wherein I mentioned Borel's infinite monkey       theorem. So it was a sensitive word even then.       >       > Here's one of the 19th century examples:       >       >       > View the attachments for this post at:       > http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=701386978#701386978              I'm not posting from JLA Forums at the moment but will have a look when I       return to that portal.              --       Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:       https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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