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|    Will Dockery to All    |
|    Re: To The Sea Angel / Will Dockery    |
|    11 Feb 26 02:12:39    |
      From: user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid              mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:       > Will Dockery wrote:       >> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:       >>> Will Dockery wrote:       >       > >>>>>> To the Sea Angel       > >>>>>>       > >>>>>> Riptide waves,       > >>>>>> there goes the sea angel,       > >>>>>> right above the waves.       > >>>>>>       > >>>>>> These mystery years,       > >>>>>> where would I be without them?       > >>>>>> What if I'd stayed happy?       > >>>>>>       > >>>>>> Years lost,       > >>>>>> these last few I've played catch up,       > >>>>>> drifting from the shore.       > >>>>>>       > >>>>>> Barnacles on an olive shell,       > >>>>>> brain choral in my mind.       > >>>>>>       > >>>>>> Instrumental tune,       > >>>>>> made by the incoming waves.       > >>>>>>       > >>>>>> I tossed a starfish back in,       > >>>>>> watched it twirl away,       > >>>>>> and thought of you.       > >>>>>>       > >>>>>> -Will Dockery (1997)       > >>>>>>       > >>>>>> ***       > >>>>       > >>>> MMP: "Monkey" has often been used as a racial slur.       > >>>>       > >>>> Historically, various minorities have been depicted as possessing       ape-like features.       > >>>>       > >>>> Minorities that have been depicted in this fashion include J*ws,       Irishmen, Italians, and during WWII, the Japanese.       > >>>>       > >>>> That you would immediately jump to the conclusion that "monkey" =       "black," is telling.       > >>>       > >>> Dockery: I haven't seen these other specific depictions.       > >>>       > >>> MMP: There are many things you're unfamiliar with, Donkey.       > >>>       > >>> Dockery: Where does this put the "Planet of the Apes" series in modern       times?       > >>>       > >>> MMP: The same place "Monkey Planet" was when Pierre Boulle wrote it. It       was intended as a comment on racism. If there was any doubt, "Conquest of the       Planet of the Apes" made the parallels unmistakably clear.       > >>>       > >>> I don't remember any accusations of racism in comments on those books       and movies.       > >>>       > >>> Dockery: The use of the word monkey as racist seems mostly fairly recent.       > >>       > >> MMP: It's mostly from the caricatures of the 19th and early 20th       centuries. By the mid-20th century (post WWII), racial stereotypes were       actively discouraged.              Also true, comic books of the 1940s also has some stereotype characters the       modern Marvel and DC stopped using decades ago.              > >> In 1990, I almost got thrown out of college for writing a satirical       letter to the editor of the school paper wherein I mentioned Borel's infinite       monkey theorem. So it was a sensitive word even then.       > >       > > Here's one of the 19th century examples:       >       > Here's another one directed against the Irish:       >       > View the attachments for this post at:       > http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=701387311#701387311              Again, I'm not on JLA Forums right now but will have a look later.              --       Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:       https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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