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   Will Dockery to All   
   Re: To The Sea Angel / Will Dockery   
   11 Feb 26 02:12:39   
   
   From: user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   > Will Dockery wrote:   
   >> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   >>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >   
   > >>>>>> To the Sea Angel   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> Riptide waves,   
   > >>>>>> there goes the sea angel,   
   > >>>>>> right above the waves.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> These mystery years,   
   > >>>>>> where would I be without them?   
   > >>>>>> What if I'd stayed happy?   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> Years lost,   
   > >>>>>> these last few I've played catch up,   
   > >>>>>> drifting from the shore.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> Barnacles on an olive shell,   
   > >>>>>> brain choral in my mind.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> Instrumental tune,   
   > >>>>>> made by the incoming waves.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> I tossed a starfish back in,   
   > >>>>>> watched it twirl away,   
   > >>>>>> and thought of you.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> -Will Dockery (1997)   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> ***   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> MMP: "Monkey" has often been used as a racial slur.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Historically, various minorities have been depicted as possessing   
   ape-like features.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Minorities that have been depicted in this fashion include J*ws,   
   Irishmen, Italians, and during WWII, the Japanese.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> That you would immediately jump to the conclusion that "monkey" =   
   "black," is telling.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Dockery: I haven't seen these other specific depictions.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> MMP: There are many things you're unfamiliar with, Donkey.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Dockery: Where does this put the "Planet of the Apes" series in modern   
   times?   
   > >>>   
   > >>> MMP: The same place "Monkey Planet" was when Pierre Boulle wrote it.  It   
   was intended as a comment on racism.  If there was any doubt, "Conquest of the   
   Planet of the Apes" made the parallels unmistakably clear.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I don't remember any accusations of racism in comments on those books   
   and movies.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Dockery: The use of the word monkey as racist seems mostly fairly recent.   
   > >>   
   > >> MMP: It's mostly from the caricatures of the 19th and early 20th   
   centuries.  By the mid-20th century (post WWII), racial stereotypes were   
   actively discouraged.   
      
   Also true, comic books of the 1940s also has some stereotype characters the   
   modern Marvel and DC stopped using decades ago.   
      
   > >> In 1990, I almost got thrown out of college for writing a satirical   
   letter to the editor of the school paper wherein I mentioned Borel's infinite   
   monkey theorem.  So it was a sensitive word even then.   
   > >   
   > > Here's one of the 19th century examples:   
   >   
   > Here's another one directed against the Irish:   
   >   
   > View the attachments for this post at:   
   > http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=701387311#701387311   
      
   Again, I'm not on JLA Forums right now but will have a look later.   
      
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   Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:   
   https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery   
      
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