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   Message 45,043 of 45,517   
   Will Dockery to All   
   Re: Jerry Seinfeld quote   
   11 Feb 26 20:14:19   
   
   From: user3274@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   > Will Dockery wrote:   
   >> HarryLime wrote:   
   >>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   > >>> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   >   
   > >>> And what if I did do it?   
   > >>> Even though I admit to nothing, and never will.   
   > >>> What does that make me?   
   > >>> And I'm not here just defending myself but all those   
   > >>> pickers out there who've been caught.   
   > >>> Each and every one of them, who has to suffer the shame and   
   > >>> humiliation because of people like you..   
   > >>> Are we not human?! If we pick, do we not bleed?!   
   > >>> I am not an animal!   
   > >>>   
   > >>> -- Jerry Seinfeld   
   >   
   > >>> Dockery: I'm familiar with The Elephant Man and know some   
   > >>> Shakespeare but no, I'm not an expert on either.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I've watched every Seinfeld episode at least twice, though.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> MMP: You watched it twice, but you only got half the jokes.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> The play Seinfeld is paraphrasing a line from is "The Merchant of   
   > >>> Venice."   
   > >>>   
   > >>> The actual line is "If you P*ick us, do we not bleed?"   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Jerry is making a homophonic pun, substituting "pick" for "P*ick."   
   > >>>   
   > >>> The line appears in a monologue by the character, "Shylock."   
   > >>> Shylock is a j*w, and also a complex, and tragic figure who serves   
   > >>> as the villain of the play.  His monologue is an argument against   
   > >>> ethnic discrimination:   
   > >>>   
   > >>> "I am a j*w. Hath not   
   > >>> a j*w eyes? Hath not a j*w hands, organs, dimensions,   
   > >>> senses, affections, passions? Fed with the   
   > >>> same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to   
   > >>> the same diseases, healed by the same means,   
   > >>> warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer   
   > >>> as a Christian is? If you P*ick us, do we not   
   > >>> bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you   
   > >>> poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall   
   > >>> we not revenge?"   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Just as Shylock is arguing that J*ws are no different from other   
   > >>> people, so Jerry is arguing for the nose-pickers of the world.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> By associating his monologue with Shylock's, he points out the   
   > >>> ridiculousness of his argument, while simultaneously lending it a   
   > >>> touch of seriousness.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> The viewer is left to decide just how serious Jerry actually is.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Dockery: Yes, I'm familiar with the character Shylock but , again, I'm   
   > >>> not an expert on Shakespeare.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> I actually used a reference to the Shakespeare line in a comics   
   > >>> graphic novel I wrote and drew back around 1979, which I won't get   
   > >>> into right now until I get it out and post some examples from it,   
   > >>> when time permits.   
      
   I'll find these pages and post them, possibly today, comix pages unpublished   
   anywhere, from 1979.   
      
   > You've mistyped "post" as "pist"   
      
   That's right, I hit the i key instead of the o key.   
      
   Just a typo, now corrected.   
      
   --   
   Poetry and songs of Will Dockery:   
   https://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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