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   Message 45,053 of 45,517   
   Cujo DeSockpuppet to NancyGene   
   Re: THE PICK   
   12 Feb 26 00:40:23   
   
   From: cujo@petitmorte.net   
      
   nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) wrote in   
   news:Q2edndVMLbjfgRD0nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com:   
      
   >> HarryLime wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> NancyGene wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> Rudy Canoza wrote:   
   >>>> NancyGene wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> HarryLime wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Will-Dockery wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> HarryLime wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >>>>> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Will Dockery wrote:   
   >>>>> HarryLime wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> And what if I did do it?   
   >>>>> Even though I admit to nothing, and never will.   
   >>>>> What does that make me?   
   >>>>> And I'm not here just defending myself but all those   
   >>>>> pickers out there who've been caught.   
   >>>>> Each and every one of them, who has to suffer the shame and   
   >>>>> humiliation because of people like you..   
   >>>>> Are we not human?! If we pick, do we not bleed?!   
   >>>>> I am not an animal!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> -- Jerry Seinfeld   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> DONKEY: (stating the obvious) Again, good Jerry Seinfeld quote.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> MMP: He probably knows the original source of the quote as well,   
   >>>>> since everyone and their brother were saying it in the early 80s.   
   >>>>> But I'll bet he hasn't any idea what famous play Seinfeld is also   
   >>>>> paraphrasing from.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> DONKEY: I'm familiar with The Elephant Man and know some   
   >>>>> Shakespeare but no, I'm not an expert on either.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I've watched every Seinfeld episode at least twice, though.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> MMP: You watched it twice, but you only got half the jokes.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The play Seinfeld is paraphrasing a line from is "The Merchant of   
   >>>>> Venice."   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The actual line is "If you P*ick us, do we not bleed?"   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Jerry is making a homophonic pun, substituting "pick" for "P*ick."   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The line appears in a monologue by the character, "Shylock."   
   >>>>> Shylock is a j*w, and also a complex, and tragic figure who serves   
   >>>>> as the villain of the play.  His monologue is an argument against   
   >>>>> ethnic discrimination:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "I am a j*w. Hath not   
   >>>>> a j*w eyes? Hath not a j*w hands, organs, dimensions,   
   >>>>> senses, affections, passions? Fed with the   
   >>>>> same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to   
   >>>>> the same diseases, healed by the same means,   
   >>>>> warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer   
   >>>>> as a Christian is? If you P*ick us, do we not   
   >>>>> bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you   
   >>>>> poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall   
   >>>>> we not revenge?"   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Just as Shylock is arguing that J*ws are no different from other   
   >>>>> people, so Jerry is arguing for the nose-pickers of the world.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> By associating his monologue with Shylock's, he points out the   
   >>>>> ridiculousness of his argument, while simultaneously lending it a   
   >>>>> touch of seriousness.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> The viewer is left to decide just how serious Jerry actually is.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> DONKEY: Yes, I'm familiar with the character Shylock but , again,   
   >>>>> I'm not an expert on Shakespeare.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I actually used a reference to the Shakespeare line in a comics   
   >>>>> graphic novel I wrote and drew back around 1979, which I won't get   
   >>>>> into right now until I get it out and pist some examples from it,   
   >>>>> when time permits.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> MMP: How does one "use a reference"?  Are you saying that you   
   >>>>> quoted someone else's reference?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> How do you reference a famous line from Shakespeare, yet fail to   
   >>>>> recognize a slight paraphrase of the same line?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> FREUDIAN SLIP: "...until I get it out and pist some examples from   
   >>>>> it, when time permits."   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> An apt description for your posts.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "A pist on both his houses."   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> A pistbum?   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> "Pissy's Heart"   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> And let's not forget the poem where he pist on the freshly painted   
   >> walls of some woman's house.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > We remember that.  We wonder if he painted the walls turquoise?  What   
   > is it with the blue theme in Donkey's life?  If Donkey looks at   
   > people, do they look light blue, like the Na'vi?  Drunksight.   
      
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   I assume no iron pipes in this one. Damn. Damn. Damitty, damn, damn,   
   damn.   
      
   --   
   "The fact that it doesn't apply to the poem is of little consequence to   
   you, because your poems don't have a literary basis, because you're   
   functionally illiterate and haven't got a clue as to what a poem is." -   
   Little Willie Douchebag gets another asskicking from Pendragon   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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