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|    Cujo DeSockpuppet to HarryLime    |
|    Re: Dorothy Livesay -- Mathematics    |
|    24 Feb 26 00:01:56    |
      From: cujo@petitmorte.net              mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) wrote in       news:1fidnVve3_8hewH0nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com:              >> NancyGene wrote:       >>       >>> HarryLime wrote:       >>>       >>>> Will-Dockery wrote:       >>>>       >>>>> HarryLime wrote:       >>>>>       >>>>>> NancyGene wrote:       >>>>>>       >>>>>>> HarryLime wrote:       >>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> NancyGene wrote:       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>> Will Dockery wrote:       >>>>>>>>> nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene)       >>>>>>>>> posted:       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> HarryLime wrote:       >>>>>>>>>> David Dalton wrote:       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> Here’s a poem by Dorothy Livesay       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> -------       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> How do you interpret that? I guess there are       >>>>>>>>>> many complex mth roots of 1=2*n*pi, n=0,1,2...       >>>>>>>>>> Also I guess the heart could be a cardioid. :-)       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> In the above poem some multiple spaces will       >>>>>>>>>> have been converted to a single space by my       >>>>>>>>>> newsreader Hogwasher, which does not       >>>>>>>>>> allow posting of multiple spaces (or spaces       >>>>>>>>>> at the start of a line) or of multiple blank lines.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> Searching for actual mathematical equations regarding the       >>>>>>>>>> root of one, might be over thinking it a bit.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> Its message is more elementary than that; she's applying       >>>>>>>>>> mathematical formulas to sexual patterns:       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> Much talk... no bed. Or, MT>B. B=0.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> Some talk... some bed. Or, ST=B. B=ST.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> No talk... all bed; and talk tomorrow. Or, NT>>>>>>>>> tomorrow.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> IOW: The speaker is recognizing patterns in her mate's sexual       >>>>>>>>>> behavior which she sarcastically refers to as "the great       >>>>>>>>>> game."       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> Recognizing the patterns reduces sex to a "game" -- a       >>>>>>>>>> predetermined set of movements that one goes through by rote.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> This, in turn, reduces the speaker's desire.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> She says that she meant to "hold your bones deep to the root       >>>>>>>>>> of one." This passage is full of sexual overtones (winking       >>>>>>>>>> references to penile erection and deep penetration),       >>>>>>>>>> reflecting the wild, uncontrolled passion she had felt.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, her recognition of their behavioral "formulas"       >>>>>>>>>> regarding sex has put her out of the mood. B=0.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> It's clever, but emotionally flat.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> The poem is also not in the public domain in the US or       >>>>>>>>>> Canada. Ms. Livesay died in 1996, so that is not: "General       >>>>>>>>>> Rule (Post-2022): Death of author + 70 years."       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>> David Dalton, please do not commit copyright infringement.       >>>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>> Perhaps David is unaware of the recent changes in Canadian       >>>>>>>>> Copyright law.       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> > perhaps you are also:       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> As far as I know I mostly up to date, as George Dsnce and I       >>>>>>>> have discovered the changing laws in Canada here several times       >>>>>>>> over the years.       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> "Before December 30, 2022, the general copyright term in Canada       >>>>>>>> was the life of the author plus 50 years (ending on December 31       >>>>>>>> of that 50th year). This standard applied to most literary,       >>>>>>>> dramatic, musical, and artistic works. Works already in the       >>>>>>>> public domain as of December 31, 2021, remained free." (From       >>>>>>>> George Dance's favorite source.)       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> Ms. Livesay died in 1996. David Dalton should be able to do       >>>>>>>> the math.       >>>>>>>       >>>>>>       >>>>>>       >>>>>       >>>>>       >>>>> I'd mentioned in the past that my earliest extant poem dates from       >>>>> around the time I was 16.       >>>>       >>>>       >>>> I'm not far behind you, then       >>>>       >>>> I did recently find some old comic strips I drew back around 1969.       >>>       >>>       >>> Your basic math skills are as deplorable as your basic English one.       >>>       >>> You would have been 10/11 years old in 1969.       >>>       >>> That's 5/6 years younger than 16.       >>>       >>> Dumbass.       >>       >>       >> Time means nothing to Will Donkey, since he has no markers with which       >> to note its passing. No work, no family, no chores, no friends, no       >> money, no furniture, no soap.       >       >       >       > He's got a few markers to go: school vs post-dropping out, job vs       > living off of his brother's disability check, living off of his       > brother's disability check vs post-DirtNap poverty, shed dwelling vs       > tarp dwelling, teeth vs snaggletoof.       >       > He just hasn't matured any (either as a person or a writer) since the       > first time he flunked the 4th grade.              Talent vs. talentless, deloused vs. louse ridden, Douchebag vs. normal.              Strike three, Douchebag.              --       "The fact that it doesn't apply to the poem is of little consequence to       you, because your poems don't have a literary basis, because you're       functionally illiterate and haven't got a clue as to what a poem is." -       Little Willie Douchebag gets another asskicking from Pendragon              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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