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|    Cujo DeSockpuppet to NancyGene    |
|    Re: Dorothy Livesay -- Mathematics    |
|    24 Feb 26 15:51:28    |
      From: cujo@petitmorte.net              nancygene.andjayme@gmail-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (NancyGene) wrote in       news:X2udnVXb99LiAQD0nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com:              >> HarryLime wrote:       >>       >>> Will Dockery wrote:       >>> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:       >>>       >>>> Will Dockery wrote:       >>>> mpsilvertone@yahoo-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (HarryLime) posted:       >>>> Will Dockery wrote:       >>>> HarryLime wrote:       >>>> NancyGene wrote:       >>>> David Dalton wrote:       >>>>       >>>> Here’s a poem by Dorothy Livesay       >>>>       >>>> -------       >>>>       >>>> How do you interpret that? I guess there are       >>>> many complex mth roots of 1=2*n*pi, n=0,1,2...       >>>> Also I guess the heart could be a cardioid. :-)       >>>>       >>>> In the above poem some multiple spaces will       >>>> have been converted to a single space by my       >>>> newsreader Hogwasher, which does not       >>>> allow posting of multiple spaces (or spaces       >>>> at the start of a line) or of multiple blank lines.       >>>>       >>>> Searching for actual mathematical equations regarding the root of       >>>> one, might be over thinking it a bit.       >>>>       >>>> Its message is more elementary than that; she's applying       >>>> mathematical formulas to sexual patterns:       >>>>       >>>> Much talk... no bed. Or, MT>B. B=0.       >>>>       >>>> Some talk... some bed. Or, ST=B. B=ST.       >>>>       >>>> No talk... all bed; and talk tomorrow. Or, NT>>>       >>>> IOW: The speaker is recognizing patterns in her mate's sexual       >>>> behavior which she sarcastically refers to as "the great game."       >>>>       >>>> Recognizing the patterns reduces sex to a "game" -- a predetermined       >>>> set of movements that one goes through by rote.       >>>>       >>>> This, in turn, reduces the speaker's desire.       >>>>       >>>> She says that she meant to "hold your bones deep to the root of       >>>> one." This passage is full of sexual overtones (winking references       >>>> to penile erection and deep penetration), reflecting the wild,       >>>> uncontrolled passion she had felt.       >>>>       >>>> Unfortunately, her recognition of their behavioral "formulas"       >>>> regarding sex has put her out of the mood. B=0.       >>>>       >>>> It's clever, but emotionally flat.       >>>>       >>>> The poem is also not in the public domain in the US or Canada. Ms.       >>>> Livesay died in 1996, so that is not: "General Rule (Post-2022):       >>>> Death of author + 70 years."       >>>>       >>>> David Dalton, please do not commit copyright infringement.       >>>>       >>>> Perhaps David is unaware of the recent changes in Canadian       >>>> Copyright law.       >>>>       >>>> perhaps you are also:       >>>>       >>>> As far as I know I mostly up to date, as George Dsnce and I have       >>>> discovered the changing laws in Canada here several times over the       >>>> years.       >>>>       >>>> "Before December 30, 2022, the general copyright term in Canada was       >>>> the life of the author plus 50 years (ending on December 31 of that       >>>> 50th year). This standard applied to most literary, dramatic,       >>>> musical, and artistic works. Works already in the public domain as       >>>> of December 31, 2021, remained free." (From George Dance's       >>>> favorite source.)       >>>>       >>>> Ms. Livesay died in 1996. David Dalton should be able to do the       >>>> math.       >>>>       >>>> [...]       >>>>       >>>> I'd mentioned in the past that my earliest extant poem dates from       >>>> around the time I was 16.       >>>>       >>>> I'm not far behind you, then       >>>>       >>>> I did recently find some old comic strips I drew back around 1969.       >>>>       >>>> You would have been 10/11 years old in 1969.       >>>>       >>>> Again, that's correct.       >>>>       >>>> I was drawing comix in 1969, not really writing poetry quite yet.       >>>>       >>>> I've drawn literally thousands of comic strips throughout my life.       >>>>       >>>> You should have left those       >>>>       >>>> I don't agree obviously.       >>>>       >>>> Was posting it twice       >>>>       >>>       >>>       >>>       >>> Just catching up on a couple dozen posts from you and your fellow       >>> trolls tonight, Harry.       >>>       >>       >>       >> WTF has that got to do with posting it twice?       >>       >> Dumbass.       >       >       >       > Will Donkey is just trying to bury a couple of dozen posts. Posting       > the same thing twice saves him time. He is very busy, you know.              Hasn't he gotten that blue tarp fastened yet?              --       "The fact that it doesn't apply to the poem is of little consequence to       you, because your poems don't have a literary basis, because you're       functionally illiterate and haven't got a clue as to what a poem is." -       Little Willie Douchebag gets another asskicking from Pendragon              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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