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|    Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn to Kualinar    |
|    Re: The fantasy of starships is no more     |
|    24 Feb 26 21:31:05    |
      From: PointedEars@web.de              [Please trim your quotes to the relevant minimum, as I did below.]              Kualinar wrote:       > Le 2026-02-24 à 09:53, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn a écrit :       >> Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:       >>> possibly at Lagrange points.       >>       >> Unlikely. Being at a Lagrange point does not mean that you do not need       >> thrusters to stay there (at least L1 and L2). Also, the Lagrange points of       >> a system can be very far away from each body (L1 and L2 of Sol--Terra, where       >> solar observatories and e.g. the JWST are orbiting, respectively, are 1.5       >> million km away from Terra). Standard orbits are much less expensive in       >> terms of fuel, both maintaining them and getting there and back.       >       > The L4 and L5 Lagrange points are pretty stable,              Which is why, in the Sol System at least, they are teeming with asteroids,       called "Greeks" and "Trojans" :-D              This is no place where you want to build a starbase, let alone a starship.              > but they are located at 1AU from us, at 60° in front and behind the Earth,       > forming equilateral triangle with the Earth and the Sun.              In an ideal world, for the restricted three-body problem, yes. But there is       not only Sol and Terra.              > That means that any communication will incur an 8 minutes delay, one       > way, 16 minutes both way.              Again, in an ideal world. But you missed the point I was making: You have       not only to communicate with it, you have to *travel* there and back; if you       want to build a starbase there you have to bring the parts there (at least       the parts to make the parts); if you want to build a starship at that       starbase, even if the construction crew can go there and live there       eventually, you have to bring the material there; even if you would 3D-print       everything there, you would have to bring the "ink" there first.              Therefore it makes no sense (to me) to begin construction of a starbase or a       starship at a Lagrangian point, at least not those of the Sol--Terra system.              --       PointedEars              Twitter: @PointedEars2       Please do not cc me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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