From: kuakinar@videotron.ca   
      
   Le 2025-08-31 à 05:15, Whisper a écrit :   
   > On 31/08/2025 1:16 am, a425couple wrote:   
   >> On 8/28/25 22:57, Whisper wrote:   
   >>> On 29/08/2025 5:12 am, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:   
   >>>> Wasn't created. Always was and always will be.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Infinite in space and time, with no bounds or limits.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Includes everything, so there can be only one.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No God.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Correct.  Now cue all the usual fairytale nonsense eg big bang, multi   
   >>> verses, black holes, alien visitors, human colonization of other   
   >>> planets blah blah   
   >>   
   >> Would the two of you ("casagiannoni" and "Whisper") please   
   >> contact Wikipedia to contest their teachings on this matter.   
   >> They do have an appeals process and accept challenges.   
   >>   
   >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe   
   >> The universe is all of space and time[a] and their contents.[9] It   
   >> comprises all of existence, any fundamental interaction, physical   
   >> process and physical constant, and therefore all forms of matter and   
   >> energy, and the structures they form, from sub-atomic particles to   
   >> entire galactic filaments. Since the early 20th century, the field of   
   >> cosmology establishes that space and time emerged together at the Big   
   >> Bang 13.787±0.020 billion years ago[10] and that the universe has been   
   >> expanding since then. The portion of the universe that can be seen by   
   >> humans is approximately 93 billion light-years in diameter at present,   
   >> but the total size of the universe is not known.[3]   
   >>   
   >   
   >   
   > Why contact them when they can't prove anything?   
      
   In science, you don't prove things. You look at a model and try to   
   DISPROVE it. You look at a model and you ask : What prediction does that   
   model make, what should we expect from that model ?   
      
   So far, nobody have been able to disprove the current cosmological model.   
   So far, most of it's predictions have been observed. Every confirmed   
   prediction SUPPORT, not prove but support, the model. Not being able to   
   observe a prediction DO NOT disprove the model. It just say that we   
   currently can't detect something.   
   The theory of relativity predicted the gravity waves. For over 60 years,   
   we where unable to detect them, we now detect them almost every day.   
   The cosmological model predicted the microwave cosmological background.   
   We detected it.   
   The cosmological model predicted the barionic oscillation. We can now   
   observe their effect.   
      
   BUT, for you, a theory is a guess. What you call a theory is what   
   scientists call an hypothesis. That's NOT what a scientific theory is. A   
   scientific theory is our best description and explanation for something.   
   We start by some facts obtained thru observation. Then come some   
   hypothesis. We test the hypothesis. From those tests, we derive some   
   natural laws. We make some more hypothesis. By testing those laws and   
   the derived hypothesis, we eventually develop and propose a theory.   
   Then, we test and challenge the theory, we attempt to destroy the   
   theory. When new information is found, we adjust the theory to account   
   for those new knowledge, we refine the theory.   
      
   You merrily ignore all that. You have your idea that is NOT grounded   
   upon anything reality related. An idea from your personal incredulity   
   and lack of understanding.   
      
   Reality is under NO obligation to make sense to you.   
      
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