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   Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn to Kualinar   
   Universe (was: Universe :)   
   07 Jan 26 22:36:54   
   
   From: PointedEars@web.de   
      
   Kualinar wrote:   
   > Le 2025-08-29 à 01:57, Whisper a écrit :   
   >> On 29/08/2025 5:12 am, casagiannoni@optonline.net wrote:   
   >>> Wasn't created. Always was and always will be.   
   >>>   
   >>> Infinite in space and time, with no bounds or limits.   
   >>>   
   >>> Includes everything, so there can be only one.   
   >>>   
   >>> No God.   
   >>   
   >> Correct.  Now cue all the usual fairytale nonsense eg big bang, multi   
   >> verses, black holes, alien visitors, human colonization of other planets   
   >> blah blah   
   >   
   > Big Bang : Really started.   
      
   Correctly worded, because the Big Bang is the *ongoing* expansion of our   
   universe.   
      
   > The singularity may have been there for ever   
      
   There was no literal physical singularity.  That is merely a mathematical   
   artifact of general relativity, namely when you assume that a(t = 0) = 0.   
   [Then the Kretschmann scalar of the FLRW metric becomes singular, so there   
   is no coordinate transformation to avoid that.]  But there is no good   
   physical reason to do that.   
      
   > Whatever was before T0 is outside of our reach as any information about   
   > that time have been irrevocably scrambled.   
      
   You mean t = 0, where t is cosmological time.  However, currently we cannot   
   even know what could have been before t =~ 10^-43 s, and we cannot observe   
   what has been before t =~ 378'000 a when the CMB was produced (although   
   gravitational-wave astronomy could help there).   
      
   > Black holes : VERY real. Observed. Or, rather the effect they have on   
   > their surrounding, their collisions.   
      
   Black holes have been observed directly since 2019:   
      
      
      
   > Human colonization of other planets : Probably NOT within out live   
   > times,   
      
   _lifetimes_   
      
   > but maybe in a few centuries. Still the stuff of science fiction,   
   > but, for how long ?   
      
   ACK.   
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