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|    Nancy Pelosi Unethical Profiteer to All    |
|    What Belgium's child euthanasia law mean    |
|    03 Mar 14 04:27:39    |
      XPost: soc.retirement, rec.sport.tennis, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh       XPost: alt.child-molester       From: nancy-pelosi-thief@barackobama.com              Legalized murder. Watch the libtards coin the term "post-birth       abortion" to describe murdering children.              Belgium has just passed a law allowing euthanasia for children.       The Low Countries allow for suicide and doctor-assisted suicide,       but Brussels is the first to open to door to dealing death to       children of any age.              If the prospect of youngsters being helped to off themselves       seems horrifying, do not worry – the law has “safeguards” to       ensure all the killing will be purely voluntary: a psychologist       has to certify that the child has “capacity or discernment” to       understand what they are doing.              Aside from its inherent significance, Belgium’s move requires us       to revisit Roper v. Simmons, the 2005 Supreme Court case that       ruled it inherently unconstitutional to apply the death penalty       to anyone under 18. European nations had long waged a moral       campaign against America’s allowance of the death penalty for 16-       18 year olds, which they called barbaric and savage.              After all, minors are not really responsible for their actions.       America was labelled a human rights violator, an international       outlier.              Finally, in Roper, the Court caved in to this pressure. Indeed,       it cited the European position as support for its conclusion –       other countries do not allow for such a thing.              Why can a 17 year-old rapist-murderer not face capital       punishment? Because, as Justice Kennedy wrote in a 5-4 decision,       science has shown that minors, even 17-year-olds, are too       immature to truly understand the consequences of their       decisions, or the meaning of life and death.              Juveniles are prone to “impetuous and ill-considered actions”       that they should not be made to lose their life for, even if the       action involved taking the life of another.” Moreover, juveniles       are susceptible to peer pressure, Kennedy wrote. (Of course, one       of the concerns in allowing euthanasia is external pressure from       doctors, parents and others.)              Yet now we see Belgium thinks kids are responsible enough; the       Netherlands similarly allows euthanasia as young as 12. These       countries may be the way of the future, as they have been in       other areas of progressive mores. Roper misread their belief       system.              It is not one of paternalistic concern for youth. Rather, a       system that permits the euthanasia of innocent 12 year-olds but       not the punishment of guilty 17-year-olds is one that exalts       autonomy without culpability.              Of course, with the juvenile death penalty, only a small       fraction of minors who committed capital crimes would be       sentenced to death. On a case by case basis, hosts of       psychologists, jurors, and judges would have to be convinced       that the particular defendant truly knew what they were doing.              So it comes out that the juveniles cannot really make       accountable decisions when it comes to killing people, unless it       is themselves. Or to put it differently, Belgium will not hold       children responsible when they hurt others, but gives them free       license to hurt themselves. Perversely, in Belgium, the youths       who are considered grown up enough to be euthanized have not       done anything wrong at all, unlike Simmons, who tied up his       victim and thew him off a bridge.              Belgium’s law shows the folly of basing constitutional decisions       on the practice of other countries: though we all eat at       McDonalds, American and Belgian notions of decency are       fundamentally different. In American, an age-unlimited       euthanasia law would be unthinkable, in Belgium it apparently       has 75 percent popular support. American intellectual elites       became uncomfortable being the only Western nation with a       juvenile death penalty; the Belgians do not blush at standing       out.              Roper was wrong to look across the seas, and the campaigners       against the 16-18 year old death penalty were wrong to accept       the conceit of European moral superiority and American ugliness.       But to the extent that Roper did base its decision on a       theoretically unified consensus about juvenile responsibility,       Belgium’s action, which may be followed by other northern       European countries, gives an occasion to overrule it.              http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-       conspiracy/wp/2014/02/13/belgiums-kiddie-euthansia-law-and-roper-       v-simmons/                             --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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