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   From: f00@0f0.00f   
      
   Dawn Flood wrote:   
   > On 12/22/2025 12:07 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:   
   >> jojo wrote:   
   >>> Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >>>> On 12/21/2025 1:25 AM, The Starmaker wrote:   
   >>>>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 14:44:12 -0800, The Starmaker   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Einstein's God (a cosmic religion)   
   >>   
   >> Oversimplified.   
   >>   
   >>>>> is called Spinoza's God ,   
   >>   
   >> No.  Instead, Einstein subscribed to an idea of "God" the same   
   >> as the Dutch   
   >> philosopher, Baruch Spinoza (who was excommunicated by the   
   >> Jewish community   
   >> of Amsterdam because of that).   
   >>   
   >>>>>> the God Einstein believes in.   
   >>   
   >> "Belief" should not be understood in terms of "religion" here.   
   >> Einstein was   
   >> an atheist (by his own account), an agnostic at best (also by   
   >> his own   
   >> account).  He often referred to that "god" tongue-in-cheek as   
   >> "der Alte"   
   >> (German for "the Old Man").  That is not what a true believer   
   >> in a deity   
   >> would do.   
   >>   
   >>>>> No Free Will   , human free will is an illusion; our choices   
   >>>>> are   
   >>>>>> determined by natural causes.   
   >>   
   >> That is only part of what Spinoza's idea of "God" is all   
   >> about.  It is   
   >> mainly about that "God" would be manifested in all things   
   >> (without having   
   >> created the Universe; and not all attributes of "God" would be   
   >> manifested);   
   >> but they would not communicate with humans, would not consider   
   >> them or Earth   
   >> special, would not have a plan for them or any individual, nor   
   >> would they   
   >> exert any subsequent influence on the Universe.   
   >>   
   >> It is an ongoing discussion whether that makes Spinoza an   
   >> atheist; but if   
   >> so, then Einstein, who by his own account subscribed to that   
   >> worldview, was   
   >> an atheist, too.   
   >>   
   >>    
   >>    
   >>   
   >>>> Professor Einstein died 75 years ago; now, if he was alive   
   >>>> today,   
   >>>> he may have thought differently about some things?!  Agreed??   
   >>>   
   >>> he wouldnt be able to get the patent clerk job because   
   >>> requirements have probably become too much for him.   
   >>   
   >> *facepalm*   
   >>   
   >> Under which rock does one have to live to reduce Einstein to   
   >> that job?   
   >>   
   >> Albert Einstein (1879-1955) only worked at the Swiss Patent   
   >> Office for 7   
   >> years (!) of his life (1902-1909), and from at least 1905 on   
   >> his friend   
   >> Michele Besso did most of his work there (by Einstein's design,   
   >> and Besso   
   >> happily did it) as that was only a fallback as he could not   
   >> earn enough   
   >> money as a private teacher to support his wife and newborn   
   >> son.  As Besso   
   >> was doing his work *and* Einstein's, Einstein had more time to   
   >> develop his   
   >> theories, which they talked about after work (especially   
   >> Besso's support in   
   >> developing special relativity is well-documented by Einstein in   
   >> a "thank   
   >> you" note at the end of the first paper on that).   
   >>   
   >> Most of his life, from 1908 on, Einstein worked as a university   
   >> professor of   
   >> Physics and as a theoretical physicist.   
   >>   
   >>    
   >>   
   >> F'up2 sci.physics   
   >>   
   >   
   > Cool!  This goes to show you that getting a job as an academician   
   > is really, really hard, even if one is a genius!  I am, of   
   > course, excluding "sponsorship," which can be for various (blush)   
   > reasons.   
   >   
   > Dawn   
      
   these days its more about saturation and obsolecence of the   
   university credential model.   
      
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