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   Dawn Flood to chine.bleu   
   Re: The Melania Movie: "If They Showed T   
   04 Feb 26 16:53:24   
   
   XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh   
   From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/4/2026 4:02 PM, chine.bleu wrote:   
   > Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >> On 2/4/2026 1:27 PM, chine.bleu wrote:   
   >>> Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> In his book, "The Wars of the Jews," Flavius Josephus never mentions   
   >>>> Jesus:   
   >>>   
   >>> Where 40 years after the presumed death.   
   >>>   
   >>>    
   >>>   
   >>>> Josephus mentions Pilate, Herod, and lots of other people, but not   
   >>>> Jesus.  Likewise, Philo of Alexandria mentions Pilate but not Jesus.   
   >>>   
   >>> He only wrote the one book.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Ergo, Jesus was not an important figure of his day.   
   >>>   
   >>> Except people who might have written about him   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Philo wrote a lot:   
   >>   
   >> https://archive.org/details/PhiloSupplement01Genesis/   
   >> Philo%20%2812%20volumes%20in%201%29/   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> ...as did Josephus:   
   >>   
   >> https://penelope.uchicago.edu/josephus/   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   > There are scholars that spend their entire career on that history. And   
   > they have a deeper understanding of the texts than I can. They do not   
   > have a consensus.   
   >   
   > What bothers me is anti-god botherrers making the same lame arguments as   
   > god botherrers. And destroying logic, science, and rationality.   
   >   
   > It is really okay to maybe be mistaken. Mistakes are built into our   
   > perceptions.   
   >   
      
   I don't know of any classical scholar who takes the account of the   
   Gospels regarding Pontius Pilate seriously.  To quote from the Wikipedia   
   article on Pilate:   
      
   "Raymond E. Brown argued that the Gospels' portrayal of Pilate cannot be   
   considered historical."   
      
   This seems to represent the scholarly consensus.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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