XPost: alt.global-warming, sci.skeptic   
   From: jtem01@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/12/26 2:45 PM, Vincent Maycock wrote:   
      
   > It's hotter than it would be without fossil fuel consumption.   
      
   And yet IT'S COLDER RIGHT NOW than when Neanderthals ruled all   
   of Europe into Asia, during the previous interglacial. It's   
   rouchly 2C colder, sea level is about 16 feet LOWER right now!   
      
   It's colder than during the Roman Warm Period or the Medieval   
   Warm Period.   
      
   A FAIR and an HONEST comparison, a SCIENTIFIC comparison would   
   yield the opinion that the warming since the end of The Little   
   Ice age has been SLOWED by our use of fossil fuels. And this   
   actually is what should have been predicted.   
      
   Pollutions, particles -- "Particulates" -- block sunlight. They're   
   minuscule, blocking only the tiniest portion but when you're   
   pumping out MEGATONS it adds up. Quick.   
      
   Sulfur is the real problem though. Are you old enough to remember   
   when "Acid Rain" was an issue? That's from the sulfur in our   
   fossil fuels, especially coal. The sulfur doesn't block the sun's   
   rays. Oh no, it's much worse! The sulfur converts to an aerosol   
   and bounces energy from the sun right back out into space!   
      
   Yes we in the west, AND THE UNITED STATES MORE SO THAN EUROPE,   
   went on an anti-sulfur rampage. Visit ANY gas station in the   
   United States and read the labels around the diesel fuel pump:   
      
   LOW SULFUR FUEL!   
      
   Now these properties of fossil fuels, these CLIMATE COOLING   
   properties of fossil fuels, especially coal, precisely mimic   
   the CLIMATE COOLING PROPERTIES of volcanoes. The only difference   
   is that volcanoes make all our automobiles COMBINED look like a   
   mouse fart...   
      
   Google:  Volcanic Winter   
      
   Even small to medium volcanoes have a big impact on our climate,   
   and the biggest of all -- literally "Super Volcanoes" -- can   
   plunge us into a full scale ice age overnight.   
      
   Yes, the entire planet can be thrown into a "Volcanic Winter,"   
   virtually instantly, by a big Super Volcano.   
      
   There's *Way* too many Super Volcanoes active RIGHT! NOW!   
      
   *Way* too many for comfort.   
      
   If you're an American then the one nearest to you is probably   
   the Yellowstone caldera.   
      
   That one is holding back the conservatively estimated energy   
   equivalent to roughly 100,000 nuclear warheads... detonating   
   all at once, or maybe over a few weeks.   
      
   Like it matters.   
      
   So volcanoes cool the planet. In fact, "Glacial Maximum"   
   during our last glacial period, the so called "Ice Age,"   
   was the result of a Super Volcanic eruption.   
      
   The eruption that supposedly finished off the Neanderthals, over   
   40k years ago, is said to have stopped nearly all pollen   
   production in Europe for a year. Which means, winter lasted for   
   an entire year!   
      
   Far BIGGER than that eruption was Toba, about maybe 74,000 years   
   ago. That one nearly ended our species. It nearly ended the   
   genus Homo:  Neanderthals, Red Deer People, Erectus, Denisovans...   
      
   And anyone else I missed.   
      
   Toba nearly wiped out all of us.   
      
   IT! WAS! MASSIVE!   
      
   And it's active. Right now. As I type, Toba is active.   
      
   So keep wetting your bed over GWOBULL WARBLING when you were   
   already overdue to be buried under an ice sheet THOUSANDS of   
   years ago, and (not at all coincidentally) we are overdue for   
   a VEI8 "Super Volcano" erupting, and there's maybe a half dozen,   
   maybe less, maybe more active RIGHT! NOW!   
      
   Yeah, one hour in Bill Gates' private jet used more fuel than   
   a Toyota Camry does in an entire years... but punish us "Bottom"   
   80 to 90% of the people for the choices of the rich and powerful   
   anyway.   
      
   And, oh:  Fuck you.   
      
   You're not worth the loss of science. You're not.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
     That   
   > doesn't mean it's warmer than it's ever been, because like I've said   
   > before, and you pretended you didn't notice, that CO2 in the air is   
   > not the only factor affecting global temperatures.   
   >   
   >  From what you stupidly snipped:   
   >   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change#/media/File:Globa   
   _Temperature_And_Forces_With_Fahrenheit.svg   
   >   
   >> that human industry has made it artificially (abnormally) hot.   
   >   
   > If it isn't humans, what is it that caused stratospheric cooling to go   
   > along with the surface average temperature increases?   
   >   
   >> So that REQUIRES a comparison to pre industrial periods,   
   >   
   > That's what I said.  Maybe you're catching on after all!   
   >   
   >> and even periods   
   >> when so called "Moderns" did NOT dominate the globe.   
   >   
   > No, we don't have to go back that far.   
   >   
   >> And, to absolutely nobody's surprise, such comparisons do NOT reveal any   
   >> unusual warming during our post industrial period.   
   >   
   > Like I said, CO2 levels are not the only cause of earth's surface   
   > temperature.   Milankovitch cycles are one such cause.   
   >   
   >> In fact, it's   
   >> on the cool side of things. Sea level is low, not high. It's 16   
   >> feet TOO LOW, compared to 130,000 years ago when Neanderthals   
   >> rules Europe into Asia.   
   >   
   > Doubling down on that "Neanderthal rule" error you made awhile back?   
   >   
   >> It's cool compared to that very same   
   >> period, and during historic periods during the present Holocene,   
   >> and during pre historic/paleo periods during the present   
   >> Holocene... and even compared to the 1930s!   
   >   
   > Cool relative the last interglacial, warm relative to the   
   > pre-Industrial Holocene era.   
   >   
   >> Not warm at all.   
   >>   
   >> So legitimate comparisons reveal that it's not warm, it's   
   >> actually cool -- by as much as 2C too cool   
   >   
   >  From what you snipped, I'll ask again, "too cool" for what?!   
   >   
   >> -- and you rudely   
   >   
   > LOL!  Your whole post is rude.  Why can't you discuss things civilly   
   > without any insults?   
   >   
   >> object to legitimate comparisons.   
   >   
   > So if you *are* treated rudely, just remember what Christopher Lee   
   > used to say:  You reap what you sow!   
      
      
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