XPost: alt.global-warming, sci.skeptic   
   From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/14/2026 9:42 AM, Paul Aubrin wrote:   
   > Le 14/02/2026 à 16:24, Dawn Flood a écrit :   
   >>> Mauna-Loa monthly increments (annually smoothed to remove seasonal   
   >>> variations, trend removed) versus Hadley global ocean temperatures   
   >>> increments (annually smoothed) six months before, since 1958. Each   
   >>> dot is a month.   
   >>>   
   >>> https://i.postimg.cc/tC7Gyvds/ESRLCO2-HADSST-7months.png   
   >>   
   >> Nope, nonsense.  Honey, I worked in statistical process control for 14   
   >> years; NO ONE in statistics thinks this way!!   
   >   
   > I don't ask you to conjecture anything. Just OBSERVE the form of the   
   > cloud of dots made of pairs of (monthly CO2 increments, temperature   
   > increments six months before). It strongly suggests that there is some   
   > correlation between temperatures and CO2 ppm six months later. Now,   
   > physicists know a possible cause that can explain this possible   
   > correlation.   
   >   
   > Note too, that this correlation would hardly be detectable in annual   
   > time series. So, although there is no visible correlation between   
   > "fossil fuel" annual emissions and annual temperature increments, it is   
   > not a proof that no causal relation exists, only that, if it exists, it   
   > is too weak to be detected.   
   >   
      
   Nope.  Here's a time series plot:   
      
   https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today   
      
   Try looking at it.  This is called "descriptive statistics".  Now, the   
   NSIDC includes the interdecile & interquartile ranges; the results are   
   obvious.  So is the GISS datasets:   
      
   https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs_v4/   
      
   Now, one could use formal statistical techniques developed by Dr. Walter   
   A. Shewhart (Shewhart Control Charts), and at least by the techniques of   
   Statistical Process Control, formally demonstrate via parametric (and,   
   indeed, non-parametric) analysis that global temperatures are   
   increasing, and with that, ice is decreasing, but the descriptive   
   statistics are clear.   
      
   In other words, look at the charts!   
      
   Dawn   
      
   P.S.  Why do cars, trucks, trains and other machines that consume fossil   
   fuels have exhaust pipes??   
      
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