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   Alan Ford to All   
   Re: Merry CHRISTmas, guys (and gals)!   
   29 Dec 09 22:39:43   
   
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   XPost: alt.politics, rec.sport.pro-wrestling, alt.atheism   
   XPost: alt.slack   
   From: zzz.zzz@qqq.net   
      
   Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head proudly displayed   
   his idiocy by writing:   
   > On Dec 29, 4:33 pm, Alan Ford  wrote:   
   >> Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head proudly displayed   
   >> his idiocy by writing:   
   >>   
   >>> My faith allows all faiths to show their beliefs. Crosses, Menorahs,   
   >>> Star of Davids, Atheism's various symbols, I don't care. If they pay   
   >>> taxes than go to it. [It's a thousand times better than your fascist   
   >>> one religion America]   
   >> 1. Religions pay taxes?   
   > No, their members do. [You really should know this]   
      
   But above you said that "...all faiths... show their beliefs... if they   
   pay taxes...". That's one thing.   
      
   Second, how do you propose a public place should accommodate any and all   
   religious taxpayers who insists that their symbols be included as well   
   among hundreds of others?   
      
   Third, how do you propose the system will verify that the petitioner for   
   his religious symbol in a public place actually pays taxes, and what   
   makes you think this requirement is constitutional?   
      
   >> 2. You are allowed to display your symbols without limits within your   
   >> private properties and within the churches properties. Where is the problem?   
   > Clearly i have said what the problem is.   
      
   There isn't one, unless one insists that the inability to force his own   
   religion upon everyone is somehow the problem.   
      
   >> 3. You are not allowed to use public property for religious purposes   
   >> because your religion has no monopoly on it,   
   > Except you want atheism to have a monopoly on it. [Essentially you're   
   > arguing for the establishment a state religion]   
      
   Look up the difference between secularism and atheism, idiot. If you are   
   lacking in education, go back to school. Either way, educate yourself   
   before making an even bigger ass of yourself.   
      
   >> and for simply practical   
   >> reasons because to give equal access to hundreds of other religions   
   >> would render the public property in question unusable and hazardous.   
   > BS slippery slope argument that hasn't played out in real life for   
   > several reasons.   
      
   Of course it has. Google "washington state capitol rotunda" for details.   
   Once you allow one religious display, you have to be prepared to allow   
   hundreds of others, including the clearly offensive ones such as KKK and   
   so on. The solution is to enforce the secular laws and tell all of them   
   to go fuck themselves.   
      
   [Seriously, make up a religion and demand that you   
   > get to display your symbol in some statehouse that displays the   
   > christmas tree, menorah, atheist tree, etc...You wont be allowed too]   
      
   "You wont be allowed too" doesn't parse as an English sentence, so I   
   have no clue what you meant. Btw, in case you didn't know, generally   
   only bona fide religions are allowed the officially religious status.   
   Atheism is not one of them. And there's no such thing as an "atheist tree".   
      
   >> 4. Stop being deliberately stupid. It is embarrassing for all of us.   
   > A) Feel free to keep your projections to yourself.   
   > B) Feel free to keep the opinions of your imaginary collective to   
   > yourself too.   
      
   Feel free to go fuck yourself with your religious bullshit or maybe move   
   to a country where the state = church and the church = state. You'd be   
   much happier there. The rest of us prefer to live in a secular state   
   that is not being run by religious lunatics.   
      
      
      
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   If you don't beat your meat   
   You can't have any pudding   
   How can you have any pudding   
   If you don't beat your meat?   
      
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