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   From: invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com   
      
   [Default] Thus spake jack :   
      
   >On Mar 6, 12:34 pm, "Joetheone"    
   >wrote:   
   >> "catpandaddy"  wrote in message   
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   >> news:hmtmm5$lpa$1@news.eternal-september.org...   
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   >> > "Joetheone"  wrote in message   
   >> >news:hmt58v$4m5$1@speranza.aioe.org...   
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   >> >> What are these colonial weirdoes trying to gain? The freedom to rent a   
   >> >> gym for a meeting and sock hop?   
   >>   
   >> > Much the same as many other religious movements try to gain.  They see a   
   >> > world that they think is losing itself to corruption, and they want to   
   >> > save the souls of that world by any means necessary.  Eventually, the   
   >> > means they consider "necessary" become as bad as the original problem   
   >> > itself.   
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   >> > The whole point of the Caprica pilot and all of these "unlikeable"   
   >> > characters is to demonstrate that the STO fanatics see before them a world   
   >> > with no moral center that is almost beyond saving.   
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   >> That's a nice generic description, but the ones we see have the same values   
   >> and act the same way as the culture they supposedly condemn.   
   >> They're front row center at the V-Ville snuff show.   
   >   
   >That's the hypocrisy of many of them.  They condemn certain moral   
   >values and are willing to die to establish their own belief system,   
   >but hey, in the meantime, let's have some fun.   
   >   
   >How many conservatives and religious fundamentalists in the US turn   
   >out to be morally not what they declare themselves to be?   
      
   I have no idea.  They haven't all come out of the closet.  Or returned   
   from backpacking the Appilachia Trail.   
      
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   >Also, for some the disparateness between their beliefs and actions   
   >leads them to a kind of self-hate that makes them more willing to   
   >suicide-murder.   
      
   About a year ago, a lecturer here made the pronouncement that many of   
   the Muslim men who were "martyring themselves for the cause" were   
   actually doing it for the promised rewards, mainly the 72 virgins. She   
   claimed that this was because of the severe restrictions on sexual   
   contact resulted in many of these men finding themselves frustrated   
   and most were still virgins well into their 20s and, given the ratio   
   to men to women, little realistic chance of changing that and   
   remaining within the "good graces" of Islam.  "So if he can't have one   
   girl in this life, why not have 72 in the next?"  Now, was she trying   
   to be a rabble rouser?  Was she being a feminist?  Maybe a   
   conservative feminist?  Maybe a little correct, too?   
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