From: hcharper@goldenvalleycable.com   
      
   OM wrote:   
   > ...Tim, I'm really not wanting to drag this out into a continued flame   
   > fest, but if "Guido" really was around back in those days - and yeah,   
   > I cut my baby teeth on an IBM 029 as well as a Burroughs "Grey   
   > Monster" TTY with a tape punch - then he'd know about the built-in   
   > ratios of *all* of the popular newsreaders, especially vnews. Which is   
   > why I'm doubting this guy was actuall around back then.   
      
   GoldEd had no ratios, Frontdoor had no ratios, SLMR had no ratios.   
   Wildcat and Maximus BBSes had no ratios. *ALL* of which were popular, so   
   you can not say "all popular newreaders" had ratios.   
      
   I started on IBM 360 and help my company to upgrade to 370 when the tech   
   came out. Remember EBCDIC? I do. I went from punched cards, to mag tape,   
   to disk packs. (Paper tape had to many problems remember?) I've studied   
   under Seymore Cray at CDC's institute and used a Cyber 70 as well, and   
   have the diploma to prove it. I've watched us go from "core" memory to   
   chips. I've multi-tasked in under 8K of RAM. I was Fidonet's NET 2215's   
   founding NC too before I moved out West. A friend of mine (Dan Steil)   
   developed the packet system most networks use today for Darpanet so   
   radios could be used for network communications. So don't tell people   
   you don't think I wasn't around back then. I'm almost 60 years old!   
      
   > it's mox nix. I'm still going to bitch when I download a   
   > hundred-line-plus post and all that's been added is one line of "MEEE   
   > TOOO!!" bullshit, but that doesn't change the facts as I presented   
   > them. You may disagree with quote trimming, but at least show me the   
   > courtesy of not calling me a liar.   
      
   I fully agree with you that quotes SHOULD be trimmed, but that it should   
   be voluntary, not "Law". It is so simple to press the "next message"   
   key, and that with the bandwidth we have today using less than 10% of   
   fiber optics abilities, bandwidth is no longer a problem, nor will it be   
   in the foreseeable future. So press the "next" key and move on, you   
   dinky-dow mo fo! LOL! Get real!   
      
   Guido   
      
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