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   From: Obveeus@aol.com   
      
   "Dano"  wrote:   
      
   > "Obveeus"  wrote in message   
   > news:hp0597$jub$1@news.eternal-september.org...   
   >>   
   >> "trag"  wrote:   
   >>> On Mar 30, 4:03 pm, "Dano"  wrote:   
   >>>> Jonathan?  Do you mean Daniel Graystone?  Zoe's dad?  I don't find him   
   >>>> even   
   >>>> a bit sympathetic.  It's his products...inventions...that have done   
   >>>> possibly   
   >>>> irreperable damage to their society.  And I don't think that's   
   >>>> overstating   
   >>>> it.  Mind you, I'm not even counting what we know is going to come of   
   >>>> his   
   >>>> Cylons.   
   >>>   
   >>> The folks "ruining" their society (in your prudish eyes) weren't   
   >>> forced to behave the way they do.  For that matter, every one of them   
   >>> is *hacking* their headset in order to participate in the activities   
   >>> you decry.   
   >>   
   >> It seems to me that the virtual world in Caprica is a direct   
   >> representation of the internet here on current Earth.  Whether it is   
   >> people doing ameteur porn, stealing music, playing first player shoot-em   
   >> up role playing games, sexting (whatever the non-phone version of that is   
   >> called), etc...   
   >>   
   >> So, if Graystone should die for creating the online world on Caprica, who   
   >> do we lynch her eon Earth?  Bill Gates?  Heads of Intel, Google, Youtube,   
   >> Facebook, MySpace?  Is there one person to lynch or should everyone that   
   >> made technology possible be killed? ...yikes, that gets dangerously close   
   >> to the moral of the new BSG.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Who said anything about lynching?  He made a pretty serious enemy when he   
   > ordered the theft that led to the Taurons being killed.  I think there   
   > might just be a crime worthy of prosecution there however.   
      
   Your claim was that his products and inventions have done irreperable harm   
   to society (a remark aimed at the virtual reality world, not the creation of   
   the Cylons).   The fact that people are 'hacking' and creating vial parts of   
   the virtual world is not soemthing he should be blamed for any more than   
   Bill gates should be blamed for internet porn.   
      
   >>> Most of the Adamas actually are murderers apparently.   
   >>   
   >> Yep.   
   >   
   > Really?  Which ones?   
      
   The uncle apparently works as a hitman.  The lead Adama ordered a hit on   
   Mrs. Graystone.   
      
   > Sounds like a spurious and unsubstantiated accusation to me.  We know that   
   > Graystone is indirectly a murderer however.  That is a fact.   
      
   He ordered the theft of as computer chip.  He in no way sanctioned murder as   
   part of that theft.  The murder part of the process came from the Adama link   
   to the theft.   
      
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