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   From: cpd@cat.pan.net   
      
   "Tim McGaughy"  wrote in message   
   news:nMKdnVQyj690OiXWnZ2dnUVZ_hydnZ2d@posted.toastnet...   
   > catpandaddy wrote:   
   >>   
   >> "David Loewe, Jr."  wrote in message   
   >> news:ve0fr5trbra97e07h3uaefopj5e21fq14j@4ax.com...   
   >>> On Sat, 3 Apr 2010 11:16:15 -0500, "catpandaddy"    
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> "David V. Loewe, Jr"  wrote   
   >>>>> On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 14:13:34 +0700, Guido   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>> David Loewe, Jr. wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>  > Is Shell an American company?  No, it is not.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> But Shell willingly sells oil in the USA.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> So does Lukoil.  Does that make *them* a US company?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Tim's original quote said selling to "foreign" companies, ie companies   
   >>>> outside of Iraq's usual region.  This counts.   
   >>>   
   >>> Yet he was responding to my reply about the allegation that the oil (or   
   >>> contracts thereof) were to be given "Cheney/Halliburton."   
   >>>   
   >>>> "The Iraqi government has sold oil rights to foreign oil companies like   
   >>>> Shell. This comes decades after Saddam took those rights away by force   
   >>>> from those same companies."   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Being able to sell to those companies again /is/ better than /not/   
   >>>> being   
   >>>> able to sell to them, appears to be the argument.   
   >>>   
   >>> No.   
   >>   
   >> Then if it wasn't the original argument.... is it a good thing in and of   
   >> itself that Iraq is free to trade oil on the open market again?   
   >   
   > Not really. The situation is almost exactly identical to the conditions   
   > that led to Saddam's rise in the first place, and Iraq under Saddam was   
   > also free to trade oil anyway.   
   >   
   > The Iraqi government should have kept what they owned, rather than selling   
   > their people out yet again.   
      
   Okay I see where I misunderstood.  The phrase "has sold oil rights" didn't   
   parse the first time I read it.   
      
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