From: invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com   
      
   [Default] Thus spake Starkiller™ :   
      
   >On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:56:27 -0500, "catpandaddy"    
   >wrote:   
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   >>"David Milligan"  wrote in message   
   >>news:i27peb$d0r$1@news.eternal-september.org...   
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   >>> "jack"  wrote in message   
   >>> news:9c62b044-2c52-4c25-b395-595fbb119d6c@l14g2000yql.googlegroups.com...   
   >>> On Jul 20, 11:00 pm, StarkillerT  wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:40:27 -0500, "catpandaddy"    
   >>>> wrote:   
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   >>>> >"StarkillerT"  wrote in message   
   >>>> >news:ep7c469mq7nsudpnelv3g4aoa5k8e1idr0@4ax.com...   
   >>>> >> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:34:57 -0600, "Joetheone"   
   >>>> >>  wrote:   
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   >>>> >>>"StarkillerT"  wrote in message   
   >>>> >>>news:ib1246p2dao9koh886o9gn41ogtpf8pe2s@4ax.com...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> >>>> It's just plain weird to see Gaius Baltar(James Callis) playing a   
   >>>> >>>> 1940s era American scientist and speaking without the British   
   >>>> >>>> accent.   
   >>>> >>>> Which for me make the new episodes even more surreal than they are   
   >>>> >>>> intended to be.   
   >>>> >>>> Callis does play his part quite well though. His accent just barely   
   >>>> >>>> slips through a few times.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> >>>It ended up being just a bad American accent, almost as bad as   
   >>>> >>>Bamber's.   
   >>>> >>>Wish they would have given him the zoot suit for BSG, though. It's a   
   >>>> >>>good   
   >>>> >>>look for him.   
   >>>> >>>And I think I'm going to enjoy him in this role. Looks like a good   
   >>>> >>>season   
   >>>> >>>for Eureka.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> >> Indeed. A lot of todays younger actors just look like they're wearing   
   >>>> >> a costume when dressing for a 30s or 40s era role.   
   >>>> >> Callis' wardrobe person did a good job of making him look like he   
   >>>> >> belonged in that suit.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> >What is it that makes the difference? Does a real 40s suit look fake on   
   >>>> >camera, so that they need a not-quite-authentic version which looks "on   
   >>>> >film" to be more authentic than the real deal itself? Like using dry ice   
   >>>> >because real fog photographs with too smokelike an appearance to be   
   >>>> >convincing or something like that?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> A lot of times it is the fit of the suit. I've seen a few where the   
   >>>> suits are kinda baggy as todays male actors are on average more   
   >>>> slender than their preedecessors back then. The difference is not as   
   >>>> much the suit itself as far as authenticity goes but how the actor   
   >>>> wears it and how it fits.   
   >>>> And then there are subtle things like Callis has the more defined   
   >>>> jawline as did a lot of folks in that era whereas a lot of todays   
   >>>> actors have the more soft rounded off jaw and chinlines.   
   >>>> Put 32 year old Ashton Kutcher in a suit like that and he looks like a   
   >>>> kid wearing his dads clothes.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>> I think a lot of young guys look like kids playing dress-up when   
   >>>> wearing more mature suits, especially three-piece ones.  Somehow, all   
   >>>> that cloth just needs a more adult look to the face.  Also, business   
   >>>> attire fell out of fashion as an everyday look back in the Sixties.   
   >>>> Most young guys will wear a suit on a regular basis only after they   
   >>>> get their first office job.  And blue-collar guys maybe will put one   
   >>>> on for special church occasions.  They're just not used to wearing   
   >>>> them.   
   >>>   
   >>>        Work construction (sheet metal). I own one ugly brown coat and   
   >>> slightly mis-matched pants - my funeral suit. "Dress up'' is a good pair   
   >>> of blue jeans and a clean shirt with a collar.   
   >>>        Who REALLY needs more that THAT?   
   >>   
   >>Depends on which clients you are trying to approach.  Ask for a minute of a   
   >>wealthy exec's time wearing either of those outfits, and he may mistake you   
   >>for a panhandler.   
   >   
   >Actually I sell around $1.5 million a year in services for my company   
   >wearing jeans, work boots and workshirts. :-)   
   >   
   >But I have to admit I am in a construction trade.   
   >I damn sure wouldn't have done that if I had been trying to sell   
   >insurance dressed like that.   
      
   I tried "The Trick" once at a construction site.  Expensive suit,   
   shirt collar unbuttoned and tie a little loose, strudy and slightly   
   "used" workboots, a hard hat and a drafting tube.  Walked all over the   
   site.   
      
   >   
   >BTW, sales is not my primary function.  I'm a systems engineer that   
   >just happens to get lucky being in the right place at the right time   
   >on occassion.  Our real sales reps sell over $15 million a year each   
   >on average.   
      
   I wored the sales support side.  Salesdroid closed the sales, I made a   
   lot of them for him.  And he made sure his bosses knew that. Hopefully   
   your bosses know about you.   
      
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