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   "RT"  wrote in message   
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   > > "AC"  wrote in message   
   > > > catpandaddy wrote:   
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   > > > > And then Paramount tried to sell the ideas of "Voyager" and   
   "Enterprise"   
   > > > > to the network execs, who never suspected they were being played for   
   > > > > victims in the studio's greedy "Khan-game"... but by then they were   
   a   
   > > > > bunch of khan-artists. ;o)   
   > > >   
   > > > Never understood the hostility towards Voyager and Enterprise. IMHO,   
   > > > they were great mass market throwaway space based scifi. Pulp-Scifi   
   > > > perhaps? TOS and TNG were never more than that, so I don't see what's   
   > > > wrong with the other two.   
   > > >   
   > > > As a insanely biased Babylon 5 fan, I have deliberately left DS9 out.   
   > >   
   > > There's little wrong with Voyager or Deep Space Nine as an idea,   
   although it   
   > > got bogged down by the people in charge not really knowing what to do   
   and   
   > > having no story ideas (hence a lot of playing in the holodeck and time   
   >   
   > Huh? I watched those from time to time - whatlots of playing on the   
   holodeck?   
      
   Obviously you must have missed the holod(r)eck episodes ... which makes you   
   very lucky.   
      
   The main ones were Janeway and her fantasy Irish village, and in Deep Space   
   Nine there was that silly holographic nightclub singer who they all became   
   friends with ... but there were others.   
      
      
      
   > > travel stories ... anything that could use the "big red Reset" button to   
   > > make the entire episode a waste of time).   
   > >   
   > > Enterprise on the other hand was complete garbage from the start. Trying   
   to   
   > > make a "non-Trek Trek show" was so idiotic that anyone with a brain knew   
   is   
   > > was doomed. Basically a worthless attempt to "reboot" Star Trek, it   
   simply   
   > > pee'd all over the existing Star Trek history and had lots of stupid and   
   > > ill-fitting rubbish thrown in (it suffered the same fate as Smallville,   
   with   
   >   
   > Never watched Smallville. The short viewings I did confirmed that it was   
   > just a lot of teen angst with powers.   
      
   Smallville started off okay as "Clark Kent's adventures in Smallville before   
   becoming Superman" ... but as usual the writers quickly ean out of real   
   ideas (as well as the show going on for far too many seasons or not starting   
   early enough in Clark's life) and started stupidly dragging pretty much   
   every character from the Superman franchise into Smallville, destroying any   
   even remote resemblance to the established timelines. The show simply became   
   garbage after about season 2 or 3.   
      
   Enterprise did much the same thing, pulling in races like the Ferengi that   
   aren't meant to be known until much later in the established timeline.   
   Apparently the lazy writers tried to get around the problem by silly things   
   like the Enterprise crew never knowing the name of the race, etc.  :-\   
      
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