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   "AC"  wrote in message   
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   > >> Your Name wrote:   
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   > >>> "AC"  wrote in message   
   > >>>> catpandaddy wrote:   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> And then Paramount tried to sell the ideas of "Voyager" and   
   > > "Enterprise"   
   > >>>>> to the network execs, who never suspected they were being played for   
   > >>>>> victims in the studio's greedy "Khan-game"... but by then they were   
   > > a   
   > >>>>> bunch of khan-artists. ;o)   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Never understood the hostility towards Voyager and Enterprise. IMHO,   
   > >>>> they were great mass market throwaway space based scifi. Pulp-Scifi   
   > >>>> perhaps? TOS and TNG were never more than that, so I don't see what's   
   > >>>> wrong with the other two.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> As a insanely biased Babylon 5 fan, I have deliberately left DS9 out.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> There's little wrong with Voyager or Deep Space Nine as an idea,   
   > > although it   
   > >>> got bogged down by the people in charge not really knowing what to do   
   > > and   
   > >>> having no story ideas (hence a lot of playing in the holodeck and time   
   > >>   
   > >> Huh? I watched those from time to time - whatlots of playing on the   
   > > holodeck?   
   > >   
   > > Obviously you must have missed the holod(r)eck episodes ... which makes   
   you   
   > > very lucky.   
   > >   
   > > The main ones were Janeway and her fantasy Irish village, and in Deep   
   Space   
   > > Nine there was that silly holographic nightclub singer who they all   
   became   
   > > friends with ... but there were others.   
   > >   
   >   
   > What's so wrong with that? Why would Janeway have an Irish village   
   > holodeck program? Why shouldn't humans for relationships with highly   
   > complex artificial life forms?   
   >   
   > The first fits the character well, so that's good writing and the second   
   > is clearly a great scifi premise.   
      
   It suffers the same problem as Deep Space Nine. In Voyager you have a single   
   ship travelling through completely unknown space ... and yet again ALL the   
   command staff are often playing silly games in the holod(r)ek at the same   
   time.   
      
   It's also simply an excuse for lazy writers to write whatever they want and   
   it doesn't really matter that it hasn't really got anything to do with the   
   "Star Trek" universe (plus of course giving bored actors the chance to play   
   a different role while still being in the same show).   
      
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