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   >> >>> "AC" wrote in message   
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   >> >>>> Your Name wrote:   
   >> >>>>> "AC" wrote in message   
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   >> >>>>>>   
   >> >>>>>> I would guess, that had Firefly been British, it would have   
   >> >>>>>> survived.   
   >> >>> It   
   >> >>>>>> would have had less episodes and been lower budget, but it would   
   >> >>>>>> have   
   >> >>>>>> had time to establish. I would add that I would not say that's an   
   >> >>>>>> automatic thing for any failed "good" US show. I think Firefly was   
   >> >>>>>> pretty unique. It was a show like Babylon 5, in that it is a scifi   
   >> > set   
   >> >>>>>> show that can draw non scifi fans.   
   >> >>>>>   
   >> >>>>> I've never seen Firefly, but Babblealong 5 was abysmally boring. I   
   >> > don't   
   >> >>>>> many, if any, "no scifi fans" were interested in watching it ...   
   >> >>>>> most   
   >> >>> scifi   
   >> >>>>> fans I know weren't even interested in watching it (in fact a   
   >> >>>>> couple   
   >> > of   
   >> >>>>> people I know watched it solely to see the Amiga-driven special   
   >> > effects   
   >> >>>>> because they orked or were interested in that area).   
   >> >>>>   
   >> >>>> I'm not sure what you like then. You slate reset shows like ST,   
   >> >>>> don't   
   >> >>>> like the arc shows like B5 and FF. Not sure what's left.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> Here we go with the not being able to read. :-(   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> I said I had never seen Firefly, not even a single second of it ... I   
   >> > have   
   >> >>> also not really read anything about it, so I can't say whether I like   
   >> >>> it   
   >> > or   
   >> >>> not.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> I also never said anything about "arc shows". Babblealong 5 was   
   >> >>> simply   
   >> >>> b-o-r-i-n-g. The only real problem with "arc shows" is that they lose   
   >> >>> viewers since the casual watcher can't be bothered watching EVERY   
   >> >>> single   
   >> >>> episode just to keep up. That's why most good shows tend to be   
   >> >>> episodic   
   >> > so   
   >> >>> casual viewers can tune in whenever they want, and often have an   
   >> > on-going   
   >> >>> background story for the real fans.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> The real Star Trek shows were fine (with the exception of some lazily   
   >> >>> written episodes and the religious mumbo-jumbo in Deep Space Nine).   
   >> >>> Enterprise and the silly "reboot" movie are simply garbage that don't   
   >> > fit in   
   >> >>> the "Star Trek" franchise in anything but name.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>> If you're counting shows that are now longer running, then there's   
   >> > plenty of   
   >> >>> other sci-fi shows left.   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>>   
   >> >>   
   >> >> I see you confuse "boring" with "cant be bothered". Fair enough. Im   
   >> >> prepared to comit for quality. Compared to any ST, B5 was quality. It   
   >> >> was only boring, if as you say, you couldn't be bothered. It was more   
   >> >> exciting than anything ST ever did.   
   >> >   
   >> > The few episodes I saw were definitely b-o-r-i-n-g ... lots of   
   >> > political /   
   >> > quasi-religious garbage and hopeless silent space battles with only   
   >> > ballet   
   >> > music for accompaniment. :-(   
   >>   
   >> No, the political and religious stuff was intrinsic to the whole   
   >> motivation of the characters. With out motivation, then everything else   
   >> is pointless. It gives the action stuff meaning. Something ST never ever   
   >> had.   
   >>   
   >> The space battles were brilliant and better than anything at the time.   
   >> They still hold up well to day.   
   >   
   > They're still boring rubbish today ... as is the confused mess known as   
   > "2001 A Space Oddessy" (although not only because they both share silly   
   > silent space scenes accompanied by dreadful ballet music). :-(   
      
   Babylon 5 did not use ANY ballet music. Please post a link to even one   
   single clip that shows a battle being accompanied by a ballet piece, or by   
   any classical music for that matter.   
      
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