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   "RT"  wrote in message   
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   > catpandaddy wrote:   
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   >> > In article , AC    
   >> > wrote:   
   >> >> Your Name wrote:   
   >> >> > "AC"  wrote in message   
   >> >> >> Your Name wrote:   
   >> >> >>> "AC"   wrote in message   
   >> >> >>>> Your Name wrote:   
   >> >> >>>>> "AC"    wrote in message   
   >> >> >>>>>> I would guess, that had Firefly been British, it would have   
   >> >> >>>>>> survived.   
   >> >> >>> It   
   >> >> >>>>>> would have had less episodes and been lower budget, but it   
   >> >> >>>>>> would   
   >> >> >>>>>> have   
   >> >> >>>>>> had time to establish. I would add that I would not say that's   
   >> >> >>>>>> an   
   >> >> >>>>>> automatic thing for any failed "good" US show. I think Firefly   
   >> >> >>>>>> was   
   >> >> >>>>>> pretty unique. It was a show like Babylon 5, in that it is a   
   >> >> >>>>>> scifi   
   >> >> > set   
   >> >> >>>>>> show that can draw non scifi fans.   
   >> >> >>>>>   
   >> >> >>>>> I've never seen Firefly, but Babblealong 5 was abysmally boring.   
   >> >> >>>>> I   
   >> >> > don't   
   >> >> >>>>> many, if any, "no scifi fans" were interested in watching it ...   
   >> >> >>>>> most   
   >> >> >>> scifi   
   >> >> >>>>> fans I know weren't even interested in watching it (in fact a   
   >> >> >>>>> couple   
   >> >> > of   
   >> >> >>>>> people I know watched it solely to see the Amiga-driven special   
   >> >> > effects   
   >> >> >>>>> because they orked or were interested in that area).   
   >> >> >>>>   
   >> >> >>>> I'm not sure what you like then. You slate reset shows like ST,   
   >> >> >>>> don't   
   >> >> >>>> like the arc shows like B5 and FF. Not sure what's left.   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >>> Here we go with the not being able to read.  :-(   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >>> I said I had never seen Firefly, not even a single second of it   
   >> >> >>> ... I   
   >> >> > have   
   >> >> >>> also not really read anything about it, so I can't say whether I   
   >> >> >>> like   
   >> >> >>> it   
   >> >> > or   
   >> >> >>> not.   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >>> I also never said anything about "arc shows". Babblealong 5 was   
   >> >> >>> simply   
   >> >> >>> b-o-r-i-n-g. The only real problem with "arc shows" is that they   
   >> >> >>> lose   
   >> >> >>> viewers since the casual watcher can't be bothered watching EVERY   
   >> >> >>> single   
   >> >> >>> episode just to keep up. That's why most good shows tend to be   
   >> >> >>> episodic   
   >> >> > so   
   >> >> >>> casual viewers can tune in whenever they want, and often have an   
   >> >> > on-going   
   >> >> >>> background story for the real fans.   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >>> The real Star Trek shows were fine (with the exception of some   
   >> >> >>> lazily   
   >> >> >>> written episodes and the religious mumbo-jumbo in Deep Space   
   >> >> >>> Nine).   
   >> >> >>> Enterprise and the silly "reboot" movie are simply garbage that   
   >> >> >>> don't   
   >> >> > fit in   
   >> >> >>> the "Star Trek" franchise in anything but name.   
   >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >>> If you're counting shows that are now longer running, then there's   
   >> >> > plenty of   
   >> >> >>> other sci-fi shows left.   
   >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> I see you confuse "boring" with "cant be bothered". Fair enough. Im   
   >> >> >> prepared to comit for quality. Compared to any ST, B5 was quality.   
   >> >> >> It   
   >> >> >> was only boring, if as you say, you couldn't be bothered. It was   
   >> >> >> more   
   >> >> >> exciting than anything ST ever did.   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> > The few episodes I saw were definitely b-o-r-i-n-g ... lots of   
   >> >> > political /   
   >> >> > quasi-religious garbage and hopeless silent space battles with only   
   >> >> > ballet   
   >> >> > music for accompaniment.  :-(   
   >> >>   
   >> >> No, the political and religious stuff was intrinsic to the whole   
   >> >> motivation of the characters. With out motivation, then everything   
   >> >> else   
   >> >> is pointless. It gives the action stuff meaning. Something ST never   
   >> >> ever   
   >> >> had.   
   >> >>   
   >> >> The space battles were brilliant and better than anything at the time.   
   >> >> They still hold up well to day.   
   >> >   
   >> > They're still boring rubbish today ... as is the confused mess known as   
   >> > "2001 A Space Oddessy" (although not only because they both share silly   
   >> > silent space scenes accompanied by dreadful ballet music).  :-(   
   >>   
   >> Babylon 5 did not use ANY ballet music.  Please post a link to even one   
   >> single clip that shows a battle being accompanied by a ballet piece, or   
   >> by   
   >> any classical music for that matter.   
   >   
   > It's in the same place with the Old BSG posts...   
      
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