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   In article <4d20e38c$1@news.x-privat.org>, "Barb May"   
    wrote:   
      
   > catpandaddy wrote:   
   > > "KalElFan"  wrote in message   
   > > news:8oae21FvmvU1@mid.individual.net...   
   > >> "catpandaddy"  wrote in message   
   > >> news:ifnfgd$s7d$1@news.eternal-september.org...   
   > >>   
   > >>> Isn't all of this already accomplished with killfile rules on a good   
   > >>> newsreader?  People can already choose what to filter out by their   
   > >>> own preferences, ...   
   > >>   
   > >> My guess is maybe 15% of longtimers have that way of looking at   
   > >> it or that philosophy.  I disagree with it and Optional Moderation   
   > >> inherently takes the user and especially new user perspective.  It   
   > >> provides the optional moderation, rather than effectively telling   
   > >> them "here's a bucket and a strainer, now filter the cesspool   
   > >> yourself."   
   > >>   
   > >> I think 85% of longtime Usenetters will be fine with the idea of OM   
   > >> and bringing in more newbies.   
   > >   
   > > Newbies ARE the problem.  They don't know how to conduct themselves.   
   > > Usenet in its very first year was negligible noise and nearly all   
   > > signal.  No moderation was necessary.  Then the unwashed masses found   
   > > their way in, and we can all see the results.  It is quite clear that   
   > > bringing more newbies in directly correlates to the situation Usenet   
   > > finds itself in today.  The solution is to go back to what worked at   
   > > Usenet's inception, and this time stick to it.   
   >   
   > The solution is to take that giant stick out of your collective asses   
   > and reconcile yourselves to the fact that you can't "fix" usenet by any   
   > means. Everyone has their own filter -- it's the freedom to decide which   
   > messages you want to read. Forget about deciding that for others. It's   
   > not your place.   
   >   
   > If you don't want to associate with those who don't accept or don't know   
   > about your "rules" then perhaps you should start your own forum and then   
   > you can exercise the control that you so desperately desire.   
      
   It's not Usenet nor even the Internet that needs "fixing" ... it's the   
   human race. As a whole human beings need to actually grow up and shed the   
   selfish, greedy, bigotted idiocy of an animalistic past ... they need to   
   actually start using their so-called "highly evolved" brains properly.   
   Unfortunately the fact it that it's not going to happen any time soon.   
   :-(   
      
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