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   From: kalelfan@yanospamhoo.com   
      
   "redux"  wrote in message news:igi02d$l54$1@tornado.tornevall.net...   
      
   > ... First of all, on Usenet, the threads are MUCH more manageable.   
   > Each response is a separate article...   
   >   
   > Secondly, all these... blogs and forums are censored by definition...   
   > they tend to be as lame as it gets.... and... contain the most   
   > idiotic and utterly incompetent stuff...   
   >   
   > [Thirdly], Usenet is totally distributed system. Even if your server   
   > goes down for some reason, you can still work using some other...   
   >   
   > [Fourthly], the NNTP protocol allows for automatic group creation.   
   > So, if there are no groups to discuss what you want, simply issue   
   > a control message and create it within seconds, WORDLWIDE.   
   > Which is what Google allows you to do.  You can create ANY group   
   > on Google INSTANTLY...   
   >   
   > Finally, Usenet article may look as good as any blog and   
   > forum because NNTP protocol fully supports the HTML format,   
   > except some people fight tooth and nail to keep Usenet as   
   > text only media.   
   >   
   > And THESE are the reasons for decline of Usenet.   
      
   No, you've mostly cited the strengths of Usenet.   You missed   
   at least two perceived strengths, though you indirectly touched   
   on them.  Expertise is one.  Usenet's association with academia   
   early on is part of it.  But Usenet was also the only real game in   
   town for some years when it came to worldwide discussion of   
   any topic you could think of.  So a base of good posters who   
   collectively know an awful lot about everything built up.  Some   
   remain though their numbers are dwindling.   
      
   The second thing you missed was that it isn't so much anyone   
   being able to create their own group here, like they can now   
   in alt.*; it's the issue of "ownership".  If it's a "Google Group"   
   it's not really a "redux group" even if you call it redux.  With   
   Usenet, since no one owns Usenet, there is no immediate   
   perception of anyone else between you and your group.  In   
   the case of both alt.* and the big 8 though, the "personal   
   group" concept never really took hold.   
      
   Your two main beefs seem to be that (i) you want to be able   
   to create any group in the Big 8, and (ii) you want nntp's   
   ability to render html to be unleashed.  That you think those   
   two things would solve the problem of Usenet's decline is...   
   difficult to understand.  It'd just turn the Big 8 into alt.*   
   and Usenet into a sea of viruses and other vulnerabilities.   
      
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