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   From: kalelfan@yanospamhoo.com   
      
   "Mr. B-o-B"  wrote in message news:wzmXo.34790$v27.27934@newsfe22.iad...   
      
   [snip another netkkoplet rant]   
      
   Well here's the thing, B-o-B.  You must have missed the several posts   
   upthread that could have educated you on (i) the meaning of the   
   META+ or Meta-topical tag, (ii) the ease of simply killfiling that tag or   
   ignoring the thread on any newsreader worth its salt, (iii) my long   
   history of subscribing and posting to all the groups on the crosspost   
   list, and hence my having a more informed opinion than, say, any   
   B-o-B, on the issues that have been relevant to the functioning of   
   those groups over the years, (iv) the general and various specifically   
   relevant issues being discussed that are of interest to some readers   
   of the other groups, (v) the importance of involving ordinary group   
   users in some of these discussions to the extent they want to be   
   (and some have), (vi) the fact these are all unmoderated groups and   
   that therefore (vii) the arbiter of all such considerations set out   
   above, or any other rationale, is the poster not you or any wannabe   
   netkkkop.   
      
   Now, your assertion that these discussions have been terrorism,   
   and like "Penis," was bizarre but also a potentially revealing look   
   into your psyche.  So let's consider the likelihood that we're dealing   
   with a medical condition causing your behavior.   
      
   As a board-certified onlinepsychoanalyticalproctologist with a   
   specialty on Usenet, I can assure you your condition is quite   
   common and nothing to be ashamed of.  You don't think all   
   those ads on TV for Viagra and Cialis and all that are pitching   
   to virile, hard-bodied young hockey-playing studs, do you?  Of   
   course you don't.  Guys just like you are the target market,   
   and there are lots of them especially in the Control Freak and   
   and Netkkkop sectors of Usenet.   
      
   Think about it.  You come in all here all fire and brimstone,   
   frustrated that that control freak and netkkkop little member   
   of yours hasn't been working.  You've vicariously watched as   
   others around you have participated in discussions, and been   
   uplifted by the increase in knowledge and inspirational rising   
   up of a plan, to the point that it's reached a climax and in that   
   last post of mine it just explodes... ah... into an orgasmic display   
   of euphoria.  That "Eureka!" moment when so many of us saw   
   the light on the owned.* personal group concept.   
      
   Well, everyone but you.  You felt left out.  So left out that you   
   had to do *something*.  So you thought "Why don't I just get   
   in there and take charge!  Tell this KalElFan guy that he can't   
   do that!  He can't embarrass me like this!  I'll show him!"   
      
   And so in you came -- in a different sense than you might have   
   preferred -- to, uh... well talk about it.  To show us you had an   
   opinion.  And sure, you looked like an idiot with your terrorism   
   comparison, and the penis remark.  But we understand it was   
   a crying out.  And while crying out, the utter hypocrisy of your   
   posting to the five groups when you say it's terrorism didn't   
   dawn.  It's understandable, because what you really wanted   
   was the same stage.  Maybe you were hoping it would be a   
   substitute for the other meds, but instead the limpness is   
   still there as it was when you arrived.   
      
   The treatment is, first and foremost, acceptance B-o-B.  You   
   can have a limpinion just like anyone can have any opinion.   
      
   If you're of the female persuasion and are just using the   
   handle B-o-B, my apologies.  Please adapt the preceding   
   to a "penis envy" diagnosis and treatment plan.   
      
   But of course that's not what it's about at all.   You laid it   
   up there so I did a riff on it.  You don't even believe in your   
   own lying netkkop nonsense because not only do you post   
   to the five groups you keep on discussing as you do here:   
      
   >> Board members, feel free to chime in but can you   
   >> see yet that you should be getting on this train?   
   >> Follow Brad to wherever he takes the discussion   
   >> next.   
   >   
   > I don't think so.   
      
   Well how would you know, B-o-B?  Why are you speaking   
   to that issue, B-o-B?  I assume B-o-B is an entirely random   
   sock puppet of somebody that at least *thinks* they speak   
   for the Board here, hence "I don't think so".   
      
   So feel free to come on back and tell us why.  Or not.  It's   
   obvious.  The owned.* wasn't my idea, or to the extent   
   that suggestion for the hierarchy was it was entirely   
   inspired by Brad's first newuse piece on his site.  And   
   it's brilliant, IMNSHO.  I'd never have thought of it.  It's   
   outside the box and he has lots of stuff like that on his   
   site.  Your task, B-o-B, is to come in here and whine, or   
   rationalize, or plead or whatever it is you wanna do, or   
   not, to tell us why it can't or shouldn't happen.   
      
   Because I *GUARANTEE* you there is a market for it   
   out there.  If they know they aren't going to have any   
   netkkop nonsense from the likes of you, and can get   
   their group in a hierarachy designed for that, they'll   
   be in there in an instant.   
      
   owned.bradtempleton.*   
      
   If Brad had that now he wouldn't be considering   
   which of many not-quite-right groups to continue   
   this discussion at.   
      
   owned.usenet-classic.*   
      
   You can create your own virtual world in there, the   
   original First Cycle of Usenet, develop whatever rules   
   or control mechanisms you want.  Leather, handcuffs,   
   the whole nine yards.  Whatever floats your boat.   
   If it's not that, then whatever it is because it's your   
   group.   
      
   Think about the web board version of this.  You have   
   to set up the domain, then the board, then people   
   have to register, then there's the clunky interface...   
   this is much more condusive to subscribing to a list   
   of groups, i.e. posters or groups of posters, and   
   just clicking over to get an update on the discussion   
   and add your post.  The trolls and such will be far   
   less likely to see much upside trying to attack it,   
   especially when the inevitable new features arrive   
   allowing whitelisting without elaborate moderation   
   software.   
      
   Genius.  Just... genius.   
      
   Since the last post it did occur to me that some   
   limits on number of sub-groups and traffic may be   
   needed.  So maybe"   
      
   owned.janedoe.h1.s1   
      
   Then four more s2 to s5, and repeat for h2 to h5.   
   So 25 groups at the fourth level, five at the second   
   level and one at the top for 30 in total.  Initially I   
   think it should be text-only so existing users lock   
   up that.  I can think of many good lapsed posters   
   who might be drawn back by this concept.   
      
   It basically gives everyone their own personal   
   discussion board, because the sub-hierarchies   
   don't even have to be set up.  Those could just   
   be a feature added later, the ability to do that.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)