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   Michael Gibbs wrote:   
   > John Shocked wrote:   
   > > wrote in message news:1128940908.9   
   6464.250490@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...   
   > >   
   > >>John Shocked wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >>> wrote in message news:1128609386.   
   34113.15130@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...   
   > >>>   
   > >>>>John Shocked wrote:   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>> wrote in message news:112826110   
   .079206.255170@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>>John Shocked wrote:   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>Much of what has been written about the ancient greek period   
   developed during the   
   > >>>>>>>later Roman period after the Romans enslaved the greeks.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>And much not.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>Such as ?   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>I should educate you? But their drama, for a start.   
   > >>>   
   > >>>Are you claiming that there is Sodomy in Greek written drama ?   
   > >>   
   > >>No. I don't know how much "Sodomy" is in ancient Greek written drama.   
   > >>Why did you think I was talking specifically about sodomy? (To   
   > >>audience: that's a joke.) I mean that pre-Roman Greek drama survives   
   > >>in written form, although there's a lot that didn't.   
   > >>There also is quite a lot of homosexual ancient Greek verse available.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > Which poems of which poets in particular ?   
   > >   
   > > Politics   
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   > The link below is a good start. Homer used homosexuality in his poems,   
   > a great many Greek myths had homosexuality in them, just look at   
   > Achilles as an example. Remember that the Greeks did not differentiate   
   > between same sex or different sex relationships. TO them it was all the   
   > same, love. One could say Jesus agreed with that, since your references   
   > to it being a sin are based on the old testament, which Jesus reworked   
   > into his own message, with is love EVERYONE no matter what or who they   
   > are, and if they take the lord in their hearts, each and EVERY one of   
   > them will go to heaven. Each thing I read from you seems to point to   
   > the fact that you didn't seem to bother reading or understanding the   
   > second half of that holy book of yours. Read it, understand it, and   
   > then get back to us.   
   >   
   > http://www.livius.org/ho-hz/homosexuality/homosexuality.html   
      
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Anthology - although I have trouble   
   demonstrating how much of this material might be solidly pre-Roman, at   
   least if I'm only using Wikipedia.   
      
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