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   Clu to David E. Powell   
   Re: a CLASSIC RETVRNS -Starbuck: Lost in   
   07 Jul 12 03:33:13   
   
   1c1b7dea   
   From: drclu@swbell.net   
      
   I remember when DC comics made the shift from "good guy" to "realistic".   
      It was when I was reading Green Lantern and Hal Jordan went through   
   some personal problems.   To matter the fact, in the late 80's it seemed   
   a lot of heroes did.   
      
   Luckily just as the Flash was getting his battery of personal problems   
   he was killed off in Crisis on Infinate Earth.   
      
   Hal Jordan would not be so lucky.   
      
   He was the hero through and through.  Fearless, and nearly flawless as   
   he maintained his role as guardian of Earth's sector of space.   
      
   Then DC made the statement "In able to be Earth's greatest hero, he will   
   first have to become a man"   I remember as a fan of Hal Jordan being   
   confused and insulted by this statement.   It was not a year before he   
   had been dumped into the arctic without his ring, and managed to brave   
   the elements and survive till making it back to civilization.  And here   
   they are questioning his mettle as a man?   
      
   Soonafter that statement was made, his home town with Pieface, his   
   girlfriend and all is obliterated.   Then he goes crazy, starts killing   
   off other Green lanterns to get their rings to recreate his home town.   
   At some point he becomes Parallax, yadda yadda yadda.   
      
   Interestingly enough, this to me shows the trend towards the morose over   
   the regular hero.   
      
   However... the pendulum then swings the other direction.   
      
   In recent times, like since 2005-ish? Hal Jordan had parallax exorcised   
   from his being, and he was re-instated as a Green Lantern.   Hal Jordan   
   is back to being his fearless and daring self again, and I think many   
   fans are glad to have him back.   
      
   Even Barry Allen, the original Flash, has been brought back.   
      
   Granted all this is before the new 52 happened, but even in that changed   
   universe you still have Green Lantern in that place.   
      
   Point being, is there a place for Morose?  Sure.   
   Is there a place for heroes and examples?  Sure.   
      
   I just think that for heroes you need heroes who are believable.   
   People who you can say "Hey, they have flaws like me, but I am inspired   
   on how they overcame those flaws like I face."   
      
   I think true heroes need to be able to show others the way.  How to get   
   from point A to B.  We need to be reminded sometimes that they are   
   human, and can fail, but see how they get back up when they do, thus   
   showing how they are heroes and ultimately lead the way.   
      
   I think that classic Apollo and Starbuck (and Boomer, Adama, Tigh, and   
   the rest) were all that.   Their characters as they were could live on   
   today in television.   The way it would have to be different is that   
   when Apollo and Starbuck have problems they would need to go on for a   
   few episodes.   They get into a fight and they would have to have some   
   of that come up later, even if they did manage to quickly resolve   
   differences.  You know, more real life stuff.   
      
   Anyway, my two cubits on the matter...   
      
   Jubal   
      
   On 5/7/12 2:02 AM, David E. Powell wrote:   
   > LMAO   
   >   
   > A good point. The original BSG was a hit in part because it was   
   > unafraid to be so "good vs. evil" and feature unapolagetic heroes.   
   >   
   > I have a feeling a similar show today would do well, as the rest of   
   > the field is so different, and often morose, these days.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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