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|    Clu to David E. Powell    |
|    Re: a CLASSIC RETVRNS -Starbuck: Lost in    |
|    07 Jul 12 03:33:13    |
      1c1b7dea       From: drclu@swbell.net              I remember when DC comics made the shift from "good guy" to "realistic".        It was when I was reading Green Lantern and Hal Jordan went through       some personal problems. To matter the fact, in the late 80's it seemed       a lot of heroes did.              Luckily just as the Flash was getting his battery of personal problems       he was killed off in Crisis on Infinate Earth.              Hal Jordan would not be so lucky.              He was the hero through and through. Fearless, and nearly flawless as       he maintained his role as guardian of Earth's sector of space.              Then DC made the statement "In able to be Earth's greatest hero, he will       first have to become a man" I remember as a fan of Hal Jordan being       confused and insulted by this statement. It was not a year before he       had been dumped into the arctic without his ring, and managed to brave       the elements and survive till making it back to civilization. And here       they are questioning his mettle as a man?              Soonafter that statement was made, his home town with Pieface, his       girlfriend and all is obliterated. Then he goes crazy, starts killing       off other Green lanterns to get their rings to recreate his home town.       At some point he becomes Parallax, yadda yadda yadda.              Interestingly enough, this to me shows the trend towards the morose over       the regular hero.              However... the pendulum then swings the other direction.              In recent times, like since 2005-ish? Hal Jordan had parallax exorcised       from his being, and he was re-instated as a Green Lantern. Hal Jordan       is back to being his fearless and daring self again, and I think many       fans are glad to have him back.              Even Barry Allen, the original Flash, has been brought back.              Granted all this is before the new 52 happened, but even in that changed       universe you still have Green Lantern in that place.              Point being, is there a place for Morose? Sure.       Is there a place for heroes and examples? Sure.              I just think that for heroes you need heroes who are believable.       People who you can say "Hey, they have flaws like me, but I am inspired       on how they overcame those flaws like I face."              I think true heroes need to be able to show others the way. How to get       from point A to B. We need to be reminded sometimes that they are       human, and can fail, but see how they get back up when they do, thus       showing how they are heroes and ultimately lead the way.              I think that classic Apollo and Starbuck (and Boomer, Adama, Tigh, and       the rest) were all that. Their characters as they were could live on       today in television. The way it would have to be different is that       when Apollo and Starbuck have problems they would need to go on for a       few episodes. They get into a fight and they would have to have some       of that come up later, even if they did manage to quickly resolve       differences. You know, more real life stuff.              Anyway, my two cubits on the matter...              Jubal              On 5/7/12 2:02 AM, David E. Powell wrote:       > LMAO       >       > A good point. The original BSG was a hit in part because it was       > unafraid to be so "good vs. evil" and feature unapolagetic heroes.       >       > I have a feeling a similar show today would do well, as the rest of       > the field is so different, and often morose, these days.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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