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|    Bubblewrap to Anthony Perez    |
|    Re: where did it all go?    |
|    29 Apr 11 09:19:53    |
      From: bubblewrap@THRWHITE.remove-ipn-this               To: alt.bbs.allsysop       You know, I remember a time before the wide-spread use of the term "Troll".       Really, I do. I stopped doing much of anything online for a while, and when       I came back, there it was! I'm not sure the two events are directly       related, but as I recall, it was right around the time some group took it       upon themselves to police Usenet on the whole, banning messages from servers       that weren't on their special list, stuff like that.              I remember thinking at the time that it would most likely come to pass (and       this isn't far off from the way it was then anyway) that the term "Troll"       would become a generic catch-all for anyone who decided to have an alternate       opinion.              Bad analogy? Sure. Still expounding on a point that several others have       proven wrong? Depends on your point of view.. Trolling? As in "taking a       stance specificly to aggravate you and get you to jump in and escalate,       potentially to a flame war"? I don't see that happening here. Now, I       started this thread, and it seems just about everyone mis-understood what I       was saying. Well, publicly anyway. Privately I got exactly the result I       wanted in emails with several thoughtful and reasonable individuals who,       notably, don't actually post here (Yes, that is what's known as an       "implication", but you can feel free to call it "trolling" if that's what       makes your cheerios taste better). And while TimeWarrior is at least       drawing near the median on people agreeing or disagreeing with him, it's       looking a lot like he isn't allowed to have a unique opinion either for some       reason. That doesn't change the fact that I can count 45 new messages from       this thread, largely spurred by the two of us having less-than-popular       opinions, that aren't advertisements or spam. This is not counting messages       I've seen in this thread via other systems that for some reason don't make       it as far as my ISP, and it's a record in all the BBS related newsgroups       I've been monitoring for the last month, excepting a.b.bbs.doors, and that's       probably episodes of Barfy the Vampire Slayer or something.              Now, I'm going to make a statement about activity of BBSs and BBSing in       general. Most of you seem to have lost your dictionaries immediately before       the last time I made similar statements, so I'l be a little more       descriptive. I'm not saying that BBSs are dead. I'm not saying that they       aren't making a comeback. In fact, if either condition was true, I likely       wouldn't be here bothering to say anything at all. I AM saying that they       came perilously close to extinction, and not for the first time, and that       they've been on life support until relatively recently. I mean, we're       talking about something that has spanned over 25 years, even three years ago       can be considered relatively recent. And we know about the obvious       elements, the leechers and the spammers and the assholes and all of the       undesireable users that came and did most of the damage each time.              What about those who started calling free thinking and alternate opinion       "trolling"? They did no damage? And they aren't capable of doing the same       damage again? This thing we call BBS isn't going to die and come back to       life too many more times, people.              Now, you can call this trolling. You can call it wrong. You can call it       whatever you want, frankly, that wasn't one of my major concerns when I       decided to post. I think I'll just call it another 45 messages.              oOoOoOo       bubblewrap              "Anthony Perez" |
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