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   Message 10,388 of 11,842   
   Static to All   
   Re: NNTP server   
   08 Dec 21 02:29:47   
   
   From: nospam.Static@f400.n249.z1.fidonet.org   
      
   On 06 Dec 2021, g00r00 said the following...   
      
    g0> Mystic has unique article IDs across all message bases and messages and   
    g0> the server is capable of properly responding to them but its disabled.   
      
   That's cool to hear at least. I hadn't guessed it was developed that far.   
      
    g0> The problem I face before I can enable it is this:  JAM message bases do   
    g0> not have any sort of message serialization other than the message number   
    g0> which can change (making it not useful).  Because of this, every message   
    g0> must have a MSGID (even local messages) for this system to work.   
    g0> ...   
    g0> Long story longer, that is the challenge: Making sure MSGID exists on   
    g0> every message on your BBS.  The limitation isn't on the NNTP side of   
    g0> things at this point.  I can make sure Mystic does it but for those who   
    g0> use third party utilities that could be problematic.   
    g0> I am not sure how various newsreaders treat messages without an article   
    g0> ID (ie an article ID of <0>).   
      
   Yeah third party tossers would certainly throw a monkey wrench regardless of   
   what Mystic does. Without a stored MSGID you could possibly use other fields to   
   generate a consistent NNTP message ID on the fly but then the question would be   
   what fields are sufficiently static and up to the task? Some combination of   
   datewritten + sendername + the message base name?   
      
   AFAIK at least for the Mozilla-based readers, they would treat everything with   
   message ID 0 as the same message, making the first article downloaded with ID 0   
   "it" for all of them. So yeah that'd probably be worse.   
      
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