From: nospam.Jeff.Earle@f700.n229.z1.fidonet.org   
      
    g0> There are some generic open sourced JAM utilities that produce reports   
    g0> like this but it would't include the dupe stuff and I can't for the life   
    g0> of me remember where to find any of them.   
    g0>   
   I have searched as well and found nothing. I will keep looking   
      
    g0> There may be one or two people who made similar things specifically for   
    g0> Mystic too, but again I don't know what those are I just remember   
    g0> hearing things.   
    g0>   
      
   I've been to all the Mystic related sites I can find and none seem to have   
   anything for stats on message bases, everything else though!   
      
    g0> I can see the IN/OUT messages on a per-base level being a good thing to   
    g0> track and right now it has to come from log parsing MUTIL, so that is   
    g0> one place for some enhancements.  But even if that is tracked internally   
    g0> that still doesn't tell you anything unless you specifically go look.   
    g0> Maybe what we're really looking for could be some automated   
    g0> notifications when certain things happen?   
    g0>   
      
   I hear you on going to look. I prefer to get a report of what the system is   
   doing and if I see something in the report, yes, go look. But with a large   
   amount of message bases and networks, its too much to look though the log for   
   potential problems. Maybe its the reports I am used to in my job that brings   
   this to mind. With all the telemetry that gets recorded for our fleet of   
   trucks, I simply can't just go look for issues. I need those reports to point   
   me to potential issues so I know where to look.   
      
   Had an issue the other day with 1 hub and if I didn't happen to be scrolling   
   through the message bases I would never have found it as I don't read that   
   peticular base. Saw that an enormous amount of messages were arriving each   
   poll to the hub. I am talking 10's of thousands of messages. Investigated an   
   found messages coming in decades old. Emailed the sysop right away and the   
   problem was fixed. Fixed in 1 day. That was just by luck. Reading a report   
   everyday would help so much.   
    I would be very interested in 'automating' these internal reports you   
   touched on. They would be very helpful.   
      
    g0> If error tracking is your end game then there are some things you may   
    g0> not be aware of, although they are more designed to be   
    g0> hub-based automation features.  Mystic does track things like crash   
    g0> errors, in/out files and bytes via BINKP. You can see all of these stats   
    g0> for each node in the EchoNode Editor whenever you want...   
    g0>   
      
   I will check this out. No, I was not aware. After I look, I may have some   
   ideas.   
      
    g0> There is also the "Echo Node Tracker" which will handle all sorts of   
    g0> automated tasks for hubs like resetting stats on time-based intervals,   
    g0> automatically deactivating nodes after periods of inactivity,   
    g0> unsubscribing msg/file bases after automated deactivation, purging   
    g0> outbound packets after inactivity period,   
    g0>   
      
   I can see where Hubs would use this. Gives me more to look at.:-)   
      
    g0> But again all of that either happens automatically or requires you to   
    g0> make the effort to go look yourself.  Perhaps we need to build in   
    g0> notifications?   
    g0>   
    g0> Open to any ideas of course, if you (or anyone else) has them.   
      
   If you don't mind, I do have some ideas that would fit right in with built in   
   notifications.   
      
   I have that in my work and my Home streaming server. It notifies when   
   something isn't working and reports what was happening just before the issue.   
   I can correct immediately (remotely if needed) to get the streaming server   
   back online for the family viewers. Better that getting a call from daughter   
   who just says "Its not working and can't watch my show".   
      
   Thank you for the information. It is very helpful.   
      
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