From: time.warrior@malkaviabbs.com.remove-1271-this   
      
     To: mroblivious1bmf   
     Re: my bbs rules, you fukkerZ! :D   
     By: mroblivious1bmf to Time Warrior on Tue Oct 04 2005 12:19 am   
      
    >  > please at least credit me with the fact that i'd have given it alot more   
    >  > effort than THAT.   
      
    > yeah, i respect that you have put work into your bbs, and it shows [now fix   
    > those fukkin bugs! ;], i have visited almost every bbs on the sbbs list, and   
    > i'd have to say that 90% of them look like they're run by people that dont   
    > care anymore.  if you disagree with me, anyone.. take a look for yourself.   
    > sit on irc all day than do anything, and bbs sysops can now [thanks to   
    > synchronet] just run a setup.exe and go through a quick wizard... and 'set i   
    > and forget it'.   
    > well, another thing is, some of these sysops that are running synchronet now   
    > are VERY scared to do anything with it.  they dont even want to try editing   
    > .src or a javascript...even to change the colors...   
    > and some are so 'WINDOWSy', they dont even want to load a dos app like   
    > thedraw [i've heard it called a 'console app', which it's NOT] or aciddraw.   
      
    I don't care if something is GUI or not and fear has little to do with it.   
   As i said, some people are busy, and i can understand that. Those people   
   ussually get SOMETHING done EVENTUALLY even if its not much. The second group   
   is pure lazy. Makes me wonder why they even bother.   
      
    I see it this way -- if you can't mod or draw, ask for help. If you are   
   busy, take your time and maybe get a knowledgable co-sysop or two to help you   
   with some of the work load. I feel anyone who contribuites, no mater how   
   large or small of a contribution, it helps the whole. Anyone who isn't here   
   to make friends and learn new things should just walk away. Because Ward   
   Christensen started the BBS as a community and i've already agreed that   
   regardless of ansi, html, dos, win, linux or whatever -- that true community   
   -- regardless of local or world wide -- is what puts the BBS Scene apart from   
   the rest of the Internet.   
      
   Any asshole can run a forum. A true community has a purpose.   
      
    >  > You see it's kind of interesting. I've always hated alot of the "elite in   
    >  > crowd" attitude that was / is in the art scene because people are too bus   
      
    > yeah, you're right. the old school elite crown was arrogant, to a laughable   
    > degree. but remember, they were 15yr old kids then, [either physically or   
    > intellectually.   
      
   Unfortunately most of the remaining art scene still hasn't grown up. I wont   
   name names -- YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE. However, there are a few who are pretty   
   damn laid back. Like the ones who have done ansi for my BBS (Sinistersilence,   
   Pazuzez, PAK, Merciful Fate gave me some of his old ANSi's from the old HTC   
   years ago when he took it down, before he started the new incarnation of it,   
   Digital Avatar [a different DA, not the current one running around. this one   
   was a chicago old skooler], Termninal Psychosis, Roalt and I'm sure   
   there were others i'm forgetting), people who haven't done art for me but are   
   willing to contribute to other systems when and if time allows (Tracker1,   
   Eli, and those are the only two I can think of RIGHT off the top of my head   
   although i'm sure theres alot more).   
      
    > i dont really consider myself an excellent ansi artist, but i've made some   
    > bad ass ansis [either from stealing parts, which anyone would do, or from   
    > learning what looks good and drawing it from scratch], i'm always drawing   
    > people menu sets, because some of this stuff makes me cringe :D.   
      
   I'd like to see some examples of your work. Got any rar or zips available   
   with some of your stuff?   
      
    > well, i have asked myself, why i even run my bbs anymore. it is NOT   
    > the same. those of you that say it is, are out right lying. sadly   
    > the times of the 'home town' bbs are gone, and those good times are no   
    > coming back. all we can do now is sit around and reminisce about those good   
    > old days.   
      
    It's not the same but thats a good thing. Local Community still exists in   
   alot of places. For where it doesn't exist, thats the fault of those   
   communities, not anyone elses fault. Chicago still has a LARGE in person   
   community. Come to the Xpresit GT and you'll find that out first hand. As for   
   other Chicago gatherings, CBBS *still* has them (I'm planning on attending if   
   I can) and last I checked Omega BBS has them still as well (altho i've never   
   been to one).   
      
    >  > trust me on that. You're sources are the BBS version of the national   
    >  > inquirer.   
      
    > hey, you've got to admit, the inquirer has been REALLY dead-on information   
    > wise, in the past few years! [deep pockets]   
      
    As for any BS you may have heard about me, i'm going to be honest and   
   objective even though I could be bias.   
      
    Most of the rumors (although not all) that are from the year 2000 and before   
   are true. I was pretty emotionally fucked up, hostile, etc... and any from   
   those days are prolly within 60-80% accuracy. However, I was in my late teens   
   and early 20's. Time changes people. I'm 27 now. About 98%+ of anything you   
   might hear from 2000-present is majoritively based on some scene asshole   
   pissed that I violated his ego and wouldn't kiss his ass and proclaim him   
   supreme g0d of the universe.   
      
   Quite a few people did this so any of those who might be reading this   
   shouldn't feel singled out. The world doesn't revlolve around *j00*.   
      
    >  > years. You're all very similar and far and few between. You all EVENTUALL   
    >  > say "fuck this" and walk off into the sunset because the "new scene" does   
    >  > cator to the egotistical control that people like you once had over it.   
      
    > yeah, i will probably say 'fuck this' and walk away. i've been told it's goo   
    > to do that from time to time, and then come back.   
      
      
   Thats bad to do, actually. It destablizes the scene. We've got enough roaming   
   "come and go" projects. We need more stable efforts.   
      
    > i've never been much of an egotist, and i dont think of myself as 'GOD'..the   
    > way some other losers have in the past.   
      
   I used to be hostile but ever egotistical. Back then I was too busy feeling   
   sorry for myself to develop an ego. lol   
      
    >  > Thanks. However, I think your flames were based in the presumption that I   
    >  > running "yet another stock BBS" ... if you were truly old skool, you'd ha   
    >  > telnetted in LONG BEFORE the web interface was even a thought in your min   
      
    > nah, that's not way. i just wanted to fuck with ya! :D   
      
   You failed in doing so. You did however succeed in making an ass of yourself   
   and providing for some amusement :-)   
      
   Quite a few people IM'd me about our convos. lol   
      
   Most people don't care to partake of this sort of digital joy ride at flamers   
   expense though. Most are read only and laugh silently. lol   
      
    > yeah, you're right. all i did was get rid of the apply feature, and change   
    > the colors.. but that relatively is a LOT compared to others.  thinking of   
      
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