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|    Michael Ejercito to HeartDoc Andrew    |
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|    08 Oct 24 03:44:01    |
      XPost: sci.med.cardiology, soc.culture.usa, soc.culture.israel       XPost: uk.legal, alt.christnet.christianlife       From: MEjercit@HotMail.com              HeartDoc Andrew wrote:       > Michael Ejercito wrote:       >       >> https://reason.com/2024/10/07/october-7-offered-a-stark-choic       -between-good-and-evil/?comments=true#comments       >>       >>       >> October 7 Offered a Stark Choice Between Good and Evil       >> When civilians are the targets, terrorists’ grievances don’t matter;       >> it’s time to hunt the perpetrators.       >> J.D. Tuccille | 10.7.2024 7:00 AM       >>       >> Share on FacebookShare on XShare on RedditShare by emailPrint friendly       >> versionCopy page URL       >> A tank with Israeli soldiers on the country's border with Gaza. | Ilia       >> Yefimovich/dpa/picture-alliance/Newscom       >> (Ilia Yefimovich/dpa/picture-alliance/Newscom)       >> One year ago, on October 7, 2023, Hamas terrorists swarmed across the       >> border from Gaza in a stunning and bloody attack on southern Israel.       >> Roughly 1,200 people were killed, the vast majority civilians. The       >> attack set off a still-escalating conflict that raises questions about       >> how far people can go to defend themselves and what constitutes       >> legitimate targets for military strikes. But it also posed a stark       >> choice between good and evil, innocents and terrorists—and some people       >> around the world are picking the wrong side.       >>       >> That murderous attacks on unsuspecting civilians and the kidnapping of       >> hundreds of them—some still in captivity—constitute unjustifiable acts       >> of terrorism is beyond question. Surprisingly, though, there's no       >> generally accepted definition of terrorism, because governments like to       >> keep the term vague so it doesn't encompass their own actions and       >> perhaps so it can be applied to domestic political opponents.       >>       >> The Rattler is a weekly newsletter from J.D. Tuccille. If you care about       >> government overreach and tangible threats to everyday liberty, this is       >> for you.       >>       >> Email(Required)       >> Email Address       >> Submit       >> Terrorism Means Targeting Civilians       >> Decades ago, in a class taught by a retired U.S diplomat who worked for       >> years in the Middle East, I was told the best way to distinguish       >> terrorism from military action is that terrorism deliberately targets       >> civilians rather than government officials or military personnel. That       >> squares with a 2004 report by the office of the U.N. Secretary General       >> that framed terrorism as "any action 'intended to cause death or serious       >> bodily harm to civilians or non-combatants with the purpose of       >> intimidating a population or compelling a government or an international       >> organization to do or abstain from doing any act.'"       >>       >> This doesn't mean that purely military action is necessarily       >> justified—whether it's right or wrong depends on the rationale. But when       >> civilians are the main target, there's no need to consider the cause;       >> that's terrorism, it's evil, and it's time to hunt down the perpetrators       >> and bring them to justice.       >>       >> October 7, When Mostly Civilians Suffered       >> On October 7, the attack began with a barrage of thousands of rockets       >> launched from Gaza into Israel. Then approximately 1,500 terrorists in       >> the employ of Hamas, an Iran proxy which runs Gaza, and its allies       >> breached the border wall or bypassed it by paraglider and motorboat.       >> About 1,200 people died at the hands of the terrorists by guns, bombs,       >> rape and sexual torture, blades, and fire, especially among residents of       >> nearby kibbutzes and attendees at the Supernova music festival.       >>       >> "Authorities have identified a total of 274 soldiers and 859       >> non-soldiers killed during the brutal assault," the Times of Israel       >> reported last December. Removing police and security guards from the       >> total still "leaves a figure of 764 civilians," the Times added.       >>       >> "The assault dwarfs all other mass murders of Israeli civilians," The       >> Economist noted. "The last time before October 7th that this many Jews       >> were murdered on a single day was during the Holocaust."       >>       >> Not immediately killed were hundreds of hostages seized by Hamas and its       >> partners. Some have since been released in exchange for concessions, and       >> some have been rescued. Others have been murdered in captivity. A few       >> have been held for a year and are hopefully still alive, including four       >> Americans.       >>       >> The correct reaction is to recognize that terrorists who target       >> civilians for murder, rape, and kidnapping deserve contempt. They should       >> be on the receiving end of efforts to make sure they're apprehended,       >> killed, or otherwise rendered incapable of again committing such acts.       >> Terrorism isn't an act that might be justified if you have a       >> sufficiently strong grievance; it's slaughter and brutalization of the       >> innocent to spread fear while bypassing those who might fight back. It       >> deserves an equally brutal response.       >>       >> The Limits of a Just Response       >> That doesn't mean anything goes in punishing terrorists. There's room       >> for debate about the tactics that can be used to target Hamas and the       >> degree to which civilians can be put at risk as Israeli forces search       >> for those responsible for October 7. It's a dilemma amplified by the       >> fact that Hamas, like many terrorist organizations, embeds itself among       >> civilians in schools, medical centers, and residential neighborhoods to       >> make punishing its members impossible without putting the innocent at       >> some degree of risk.       >>       >> "With Hamas locating themselves alongside important places like       >> hospitals, Hamas has actually made Israel fight them in places Israel       >> wouldn't want to target them, because of the potential loss of civilian       >> life," American University School of International Service Professor       >> Benjamin Jensen observed last November. "And in doing so, look at how       >> fast Israel lost momentum in its information war. Israel is taking a       >> huge amount of criticism for its killing of civilians as it goes after       >> Hamas."       >>       >> Risks can be mitigated. As the conflict expanded to include Hezbollah,       >> which has rendered much of Israel near the Lebanese border uninhabitable       >> with rocket attacks and violent incursions, Israel planted bombs in       >> pagers and walkie-talkies used by Hezbollah personnel to hit the guilty       >> and reduce danger to innocent people. Inevitably, though, a few       >> civilians were killed and wounded. Conventional attacks on Hezbollah's       >> leadership have been very effective, but also killed and wounded       >> civilians located near the targets.       >>              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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