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   > man? Yes. Is the heart of the BAM eternal and not of this World? Yes. Are we   
   > not known for before the beginning of this present world? Yes. And the   
   > ‘coup de gras’ to all this being in the very same scripture that you   
   > quoted? Yes!   
   >   
   > John 17:21: "that they may all be one, just as You, Father, are in Me, and I   
   > in You, that they also may be in Us.”   
   >   
   > IOW, we as the body of Christ ’are one’ just like Jesus and His Heavenly   
   > Father 'are one” and the Body of Christ which includes all of those who are   
   > Born Again, are ‘One. In US’.   
   >   
   > All man, restored to the position of Adam as He was before the flood, and as   
   > he would have been had he partaken of the ’tree of life’ which will be   
   > upon the Day of Resurrection.   
   >   
   > Why do you attempt to belittle the Work of Jesus that He did honoring the   
   > will of His Heavenly Father, and was sent to the Earth to fulfill it? Is not   
   > Jesus the second Adam?   
   >   
   > Anyone, and I do mean anyone that attempts to belittle the word of God is not   
   > listening to Him as there is only one opposing force of God and that is of   
   > the evil one.   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> Union with Christ means believers are incorporated into His body (1   
   >>> Corinthians 12:27) and partake in the blessings of salvation:   
   >>> justification, sanctification, and glorification (Romans 8:30). Through   
   >>> this union, believers receive new life in Christ, share in the Spirit,   
   >>> and live in obedience to God’s will. However, they do not attain God's   
   >>> attributes such as omnipotence or self-existence.   
   >   
   > No one attains anything of God by themselves or their works. We are made via   
   > the grace and mercy of the Heavenly Father The righteousness of God Himself   
   > when we become BAM. A New Creation. Old things are passed away. Meaning the   
   > Old Man is Dead. Deader than a doornail. We Now HAVE a Divine nature in   
   > having been made a new creation. A full and driving force with all its   
   > attributes for all who walk in the spirit.   
   >   
   > Those who attempt to revive the old carnal nature are living in their carnal   
   > dead self. Seeking to live in the old, while pretending to live or dwell in   
   > spiritual things. Living in the old dead carnal self and reshaping the will   
   > of God to conform to their old dead self, is to dwell in sin. They attempt to   
   > conform the will of God per their self righteous desires having not committed   
   > themselves to God the Father and now place themselves over that of a   
   > ’sovereign God’.   
   >>>   
   >>> Instead, believers experience unity with God in the sense of communion   
   >>> and shared fellowship. 2 Peter 1:4 explains that believers become   
   >>> "partakers of the divine nature," not by becoming God but by escaping   
   >>> the corruption of the world and reflecting God's character. This union   
   >>> brings transformation into Christlikeness (Romans 8:29) and aligns   
   >>> believers with God's purposes, but it preserves the Creator-creature   
   >>> distinction.   
   >   
   > partake | pɑːˈteɪk |   
   >   
   > verb (past partook | pɑːˈtʊk |; past participle partaken |   
   > pɑːˈteɪk(ə)n |) [no object]   
   >   
   > 1 (partake of) formal, or humorous eat or drink (something): he partook of a   
   > well-earned drink | I would be proud to partake of your pecan pie.   
   >   
   > 2 (partake in) formal, or humorous join in (an activity): visitors can   
   > partake in golfing or clay pigeon shooting.   
   >   
   > 3 (partake of) formal be characterized by (a quality): the birth of twins   
   > became an event which partook of the mythic.   
   >   
   > origin   
   >   
   > mid 16th century: back-formation from earlier partaker ‘person who takes a   
   > part’.   
   >   
   > IOW be a full part of. Having partook.   
   >   
   > Hence, ‘we are’ the righteousness of God. We were ‘enjoined’.   
   >   
   > Those who desire their fleshly ways have not committed themselves to God and   
   > still listen to the evil one as having a point of reason.   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> Thus, while believers become one with Christ and share fellowship with   
   >>> God, they remain distinct beings. Their unity with God mirrors   
   >>> relational oneness rather than ontological unity—the perfect, eternal   
   >>> unity shared uniquely by the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.   
   >   
   > “If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he   
   > that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he   
   > hath not seen? And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God   
   > love his brother also.” (1Jn 4:20-21, KJV)   
   >   
   > 1 John 2:9(KJV) He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is   
   > in darkness even until now.   
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> In short, believers do not BECOME The Eternally Self-existing GOD when   
   >>> they are made one in Christ.   
   >   
   > Where s any scripture saying that will not be? In the future will we not live   
   > and reign with Him?   
   > 2Ti 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we denyhim, he also   
   > will deny us:   
   >   
   > Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on   
   > such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of   
   > Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.   
   >   
   > We will not be greater than the Heavenly Father, yet we will be greater than   
   > the angels. Plus be brothers with Jesus The Messiah.   
   >   
   > I write these things to counteract your distortions and downplaying of the   
   > truth of God. That you do not fully accept the Word of God is obvious by   
   > attributing the current works of God the Father through men, by His Spirit as   
   > He did in the early days, to the works of the evil one. Thus also denying the   
   > power of God and proclaiming the ceasing of the works of God and that the   
   > works of Satan yet prevail. And in fact Insisting these things before all   
   > men, even to the point of referencing these things in the Web site you   
   > proudly publish to, yet desire to remain anonymous while taking His Position   
   > as your nym.   
   >   
   > And lastly, but yet a very important truth.   
   >   
   > Mrk 13:34 (KJV) For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left   
   > his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and   
   > commanded the porter to watch.   
   >   
   > Mrk 13:35 (KJV) Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the   
   > house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the   
   > morning:   
   >   
   > Mrk 13:36 (KJV) Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.   
   >   
   > Mrk 13:37 (KJV) And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.   
   >   
   > Hence these words of the Lord.   
   >   
   > “Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to   
   > escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son   
   > of man.” (Luk 21:36, KJV)   
   >   
   > So Be It.   
   >   
   > ***********************************   
   >   
   > The power to belittle the Word of God, and or His gifts given to man, has   
   > been given to no man.   
   >   
   > MM, being as you replied and left his remarks here, it was necessary for me   
   > to correct his false teachings with the truth of Gods words.   
      
   :-). Okay. However it may not all be about just that.   
      
   So please, try to think about what I said.   
      
   It can only prosper.   
      
      
      
      
      
   In the Name of Jesus   
      
      
      
   >   
   >>   
   >> Yes, they do. Family is family and is eternal self-existent Oneness in   
   >> and of God.   
   >>   
   >> And this was explained to me by the Holy Spirit...   
   >>   
   >> "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such   
   >> is the love of God."   
   >>   
   >> You see, it is about the nature and glory of God. He is a "withhold   
   >> nothing" God whose love is all inclusive.   
   >>   
      
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