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   Message 113,436 of 115,083   
   Robert to In the Name of Jesus   
   Re: Atonement - (2/2)   
   31 Oct 24 14:25:34   
   
   [continued from previous message]   
      
   Those who attempt to revive the old carnal nature are living in their carnal   
   dead self. Seeking to live in the old, while pretending to live or dwell in   
   spiritual things. Living in the old dead carnal self and reshaping the will   
   of God to conform to their old dead self, is to dwell in sin. They attempt to   
   conform the will of God per their self righteous desires having not committed   
   themselves to God the Father and now place themselves over that of a   
   ’sovereign God’.   
   > >   
   > > Instead, believers experience unity with God in the sense of communion   
   > > and shared fellowship. 2 Peter 1:4 explains that believers become   
   > > "partakers of the divine nature," not by becoming God but by escaping   
   > > the corruption of the world and reflecting God's character. This union   
   > > brings transformation into Christlikeness (Romans 8:29) and aligns   
   > > believers with God's purposes, but it preserves the Creator-creature   
   > > distinction.   
      
   partake | pɑːˈteɪk |   
      
   verb (past partook | pɑːˈtʊk |; past participle partaken |   
   pɑːˈteɪk(ə)n |) [no object]   
      
   1 (partake of) formal, or humorous eat or drink (something): he partook of a   
   well-earned drink | I would be proud to partake of your pecan pie.   
      
   2 (partake in) formal, or humorous join in (an activity): visitors can   
   partake in golfing or clay pigeon shooting.   
      
   3 (partake of) formal be characterized by (a quality): the birth of twins   
   became an event which partook of the mythic.   
      
   origin   
      
   mid 16th century: back-formation from earlier partaker ‘person who takes a   
   part’.   
      
   IOW be a full part of. Having partook.   
      
   Hence, ‘we are’ the righteousness of God. We were ‘enjoined’.   
      
   Those who desire their fleshly ways have not committed themselves to God and   
   still listen to the evil one as having a point of reason.   
      
   > >   
   > > Thus, while believers become one with Christ and share fellowship with   
   > > God, they remain distinct beings. Their unity with God mirrors   
   > > relational oneness rather than ontological unity—the perfect, eternal   
   > > unity shared uniquely by the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.   
      
   “If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he   
   that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he   
   hath not seen? And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God   
   love his brother also.” (1Jn 4:20-21, KJV)   
      
   1 John 2:9(KJV) He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is   
   in darkness even until now.   
      
   > >   
   > > In short, believers do not BECOME The Eternally Self-existing GOD when   
   > > they are made one in Christ.   
      
   Where s any scripture saying that will not be? In the future will we not live   
   and reign with Him?   
   2Ti 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we denyhim, he also   
   will deny us:   
      
   Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on   
   such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of   
   Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.   
      
   We will not be greater than the Heavenly Father, yet we will be greater than   
   the angels. Plus be brothers with Jesus The Messiah.   
      
   I write these things to counteract your distortions and downplaying of the   
   truth of God. That you do not fully accept the Word of God is obvious by   
   attributing the current works of God the Father through men, by His Spirit as   
   He did in the early days, to the works of the evil one. Thus also denying the   
   power of God and proclaiming the ceasing of the works of God and that the   
   works of Satan yet prevail. And in fact Insisting these things before all   
   men, even to the point of referencing these things in the Web site you   
   proudly publish to, yet desire to remain anonymous while taking His Position   
   as your nym.   
      
   And lastly, but yet a very important truth.   
      
   Mrk 13:34 (KJV) For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left   
   his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and   
   commanded the porter to watch.   
      
   Mrk 13:35 (KJV) Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the   
   house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the   
   morning:   
      
   Mrk 13:36 (KJV) Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.   
      
   Mrk 13:37 (KJV) And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.   
      
   Hence these words of the Lord.   
      
   “Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to   
   escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son   
   of man.” (Luk 21:36, KJV)   
      
   So Be It.   
      
   ***********************************   
      
   The power to belittle the Word of God, and or His gifts given to man, has   
   been given to no man.   
      
   MM, being as you replied and left his remarks here, it was necessary for me   
   to correct his false teachings with the truth of Gods words.   
      
   >   
   > Yes, they do. Family is family and is eternal self-existent Oneness in   
   > and of God.   
   >   
   > And this was explained to me by the Holy Spirit...   
   >   
   > "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such   
   > is the love of God."   
   >   
   > You see, it is about the nature and glory of God. He is a "withhold   
   > nothing" God whose love is all inclusive.   
   >   
   > Eph 3:20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all   
   > that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,   
   >   
   > The power of what?   
   >   
   > You need to have faith in God and lean not on your own sinner   
   > understanding. You are your own very bad enemy.   
   >   
   > In the Name of Jesus   
      
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