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   > in the flesh is because God had to place separation in Himself (make a   
   > way) in order to bring His children back to and into Him.   
      
   Jesus was not born without a spirit. Man was created with a body soul and   
   spirit. We all propagated after our own kind. Which we were created to do and   
   be. We are to worship God the Father and pray to Him. Not to Jesus. (Which is   
   hard to do solely, as Jesus Christ was our redeemer.) Yet we are commanded to   
   do so, and Jesus gave us the reasoning behind that in the scripture.   
      
   Mankind is not the children of God, for they follow another.   
   >   
   >   
   > > Three can be a Godhead, a corporate entity in todays terms, and they can   
   all   
   > > be at one in total agreement, yet one is the final authority, as a husband   
   is   
   > > to the man and woman being one as ordained by God. They are one in Christ   
   as   
   > > he is in the Heavenly Father.   
   >   
   > You can't contain God in physical terms or material terms; if you could,   
   > you would be greater than God.   
      
   Of course not. Only a fool would declare that he could.   
   >   
   >   
   > He is One Spirit; Father and Son are God, One and the Same, One Holy   
   > Spirit. God is everywhere and in everything; the Father as we see Him   
   > and the Son as we see Him; both are God. There is only One God.   
      
   Cam you define nor understand ‘one’ as spoken in the scriptures.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > Believers become one with Christ and with other believers, not by   
   > > > > merging into the essence of God, but by being brought into intimate   
   > > > > fellowship with Him. This union is relational and covenantal,   
   reflecting   
   > > > > harmony, shared purpose, and participation in God’s life through   
   Christ.   
   > > > > It fulfills Jesus’ prayer in John 17:21: "that they may all be one,   
   just   
   > > > > as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You, that they also may be in Us."   
   > >   
   > > “Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of   
   > > judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.” (1Jn 4:17, KJV)   
   > >   
   > > Physically? No. Spiritually? Yes. Is not the Born Again Man born of the   
   > > Heavenly Father?   
   >   
   > I stated something the other day which surprised me, and I am yet to   
   > revisit and meditate further on.   
   >   
   > All-knowing on high Rosie wrote:   
   > > In short, believers do not BECOME The Eternally Self-existing GOD   
   > when >  they are made one in Christ.   
   >   
   > And my reply to our rosie Rosie...   
   >   
   > Yes, they do. Family is family and is eternal self-existent Oneness in   
   > and of God.   
   >   
   > And this was explained to me by the Holy Spirit...   
   >   
   > "No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such   
   > is the love of God."   
   >   
   > You see, it is about the nature and glory of God. He is a "withhold   
   > nothing" God whose love is all inclusive.   
   >   
   > Eph 3:20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all   
   > that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,   
   >   
   > The power of what?   
      
   The Holy Spirt, who dwells within the Spirit of Born Again Man.   
   >   
   >   
   > You need to have faith in God and lean not on your own sinner   
   > understanding. You are your own very bad enemy.   
      
   As I told you before, and recently, I learned that and started practicing   
   that many decades ago, whether you believe me or not.   
   >   
   >   
   > > Is not the Spirit of the Most High God dwelling within the heart/spirit of   
   > > man? Yes. Is the heart of the BAM eternal and not of this World? Yes. Are   
   we   
   > > not known for before the beginning of this present world? Yes. And the   
   > > ‘coup de gras’ to all this being in the very same scripture that you   
   > > quoted? Yes!   
   > >   
   > > John 17:21: "that they may all be one, just as You, Father, are in Me, and   
   I   
   > > in You, that they also may be in Us.”   
   > >   
   > > IOW, we as the body of Christ ’are one’ just like Jesus and His   
   Heavenly   
   > > Father 'are one” and the Body of Christ which includes all of those who   
   > > are   
   > > Born Again, are ‘One. In US’.   
   > >   
   > > All man, restored to the position of Adam as He was before the flood, and   
   as   
   > > he would have been had he partaken of the ’tree of life’ which will be   
   > > upon the Day of Resurrection.   
   > >   
   > > Why do you attempt to belittle the Work of Jesus that He did honoring the   
   > > will of His Heavenly Father, and was sent to the Earth to fulfill it? Is   
   not   
   > > Jesus the second Adam?   
   > >   
   > > Anyone, and I do mean anyone that attempts to belittle the word of God is   
   > > not   
   > > listening to Him as there is only one opposing force of God and that is of   
   > > the evil one.   
   > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Union with Christ means believers are incorporated into His body (1   
   > > > > Corinthians 12:27) and partake in the blessings of salvation:   
   > > > > justification, sanctification, and glorification (Romans 8:30). Through   
   > > > > this union, believers receive new life in Christ, share in the Spirit,   
   > > > > and live in obedience to God’s will. However, they do not attain   
   God's   
   > > > > attributes such as omnipotence or self-existence.   
   > >   
   > > No one attains anything of God by themselves or their works. We are made   
   via   
   > > the grace and mercy of the Heavenly Father The righteousness of God Himself   
   > > when we become BAM. A New Creation. Old things are passed away. Meaning the   
   > > Old Man is Dead. Deader than a doornail. We Now HAVE a Divine nature in   
   > > having been made a new creation. A full and driving force with all its   
   > > attributes for all who walk in the spirit.   
   > >   
   > > Those who attempt to revive the old carnal nature are living in their   
   carnal   
   > > dead self. Seeking to live in the old, while pretending to live or dwell in   
   > > spiritual things. Living in the old dead carnal self and reshaping the will   
   > > of God to conform to their old dead self, is to dwell in sin. They attempt   
   > > to   
   > > conform the will of God per their self righteous desires having not   
   > > committed   
   > > themselves to God the Father and now place themselves over that of a   
   > > ’sovereign God’.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Instead, believers experience unity with God in the sense of communion   
   > > > > and shared fellowship. 2 Peter 1:4 explains that believers become   
   > > > > "partakers of the divine nature," not by becoming God but by escaping   
   > > > > the corruption of the world and reflecting God's character. This union   
   > > > > brings transformation into Christlikeness (Romans 8:29) and aligns   
   > > > > believers with God's purposes, but it preserves the Creator-creature   
   > > > > distinction.   
   > >   
   > > partake | pɑːˈteɪk |   
   > >   
   > > verb (past partook | pɑːˈtʊk |; past participle partaken |   
   > > pɑːˈteɪk(ə)n |) [no object]   
   > >   
   > > 1 (partake of) formal, or humorous eat or drink (something): he partook of   
   a   
   > > well-earned drink | I would be proud to partake of your pecan pie.   
   > >   
   > > 2 (partake in) formal, or humorous join in (an activity): visitors can   
   > > partake in golfing or clay pigeon shooting.   
   > >   
   > > 3 (partake of) formal be characterized by (a quality): the birth of twins   
   > > became an event which partook of the mythic.   
   > >   
   > > origin   
   > >   
   > > mid 16th century: back-formation from earlier partaker ‘person who takes   
   a   
   > > part’.   
   > >   
   > > IOW be a full part of. Having partook.   
   > >   
   > > Hence, ‘we are’ the righteousness of God. We were ‘enjoined’.   
   > >   
   > > Those who desire their fleshly ways have not committed themselves to God   
   and   
   > > still listen to the evil one as having a point of reason.   
   > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Thus, while believers become one with Christ and share fellowship with   
      
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   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)