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|    In the Name of Jesus to Robert    |
|    Re: Atonement - (3/5)    |
|    01 Nov 24 20:19:33    |
      [continued from previous message]              Also, it may be that you don't put it into practice because it is       inherent and you can't be any other way. Of course a man can think any       number of ways, but where the rubber meets the road, the bottom line,       his action is faith (leaning not on one's own understanding). One cannot       be in God and be your own Lord at any point.                     >>> Is not the Spirit of the Most High God dwelling within the heart/spirit of       >>> man? Yes. Is the heart of the BAM eternal and not of this World? Yes. Are       we       >>> not known for before the beginning of this present world? Yes. And the       >>> ‘coup de gras’ to all this being in the very same scripture that you       >>> quoted? Yes!       >>>       >>> John 17:21: "that they may all be one, just as You, Father, are in Me, and       I       >>> in You, that they also may be in Us.”       >>>       >>> IOW, we as the body of Christ ’are one’ just like Jesus and His       Heavenly       >>> Father 'are one” and the Body of Christ which includes all of those who       >>> are       >>> Born Again, are ‘One. In US’.       >>>       >>> All man, restored to the position of Adam as He was before the flood, and       as       >>> he would have been had he partaken of the ’tree of life’ which will be       >>> upon the Day of Resurrection.       >>>       >>> Why do you attempt to belittle the Work of Jesus that He did honoring the       >>> will of His Heavenly Father, and was sent to the Earth to fulfill it? Is       not       >>> Jesus the second Adam?       >>>       >>> Anyone, and I do mean anyone that attempts to belittle the word of God is       >>> not       >>> listening to Him as there is only one opposing force of God and that is of       >>> the evil one.       >>>       >>>>>       >>>>> Union with Christ means believers are incorporated into His body (1       >>>>> Corinthians 12:27) and partake in the blessings of salvation:       >>>>> justification, sanctification, and glorification (Romans 8:30). Through       >>>>> this union, believers receive new life in Christ, share in the Spirit,       >>>>> and live in obedience to God’s will. However, they do not attain God's       >>>>> attributes such as omnipotence or self-existence.       >>>       >>> No one attains anything of God by themselves or their works. We are made       via       >>> the grace and mercy of the Heavenly Father The righteousness of God Himself       >>> when we become BAM. A New Creation. Old things are passed away. Meaning the       >>> Old Man is Dead. Deader than a doornail. We Now HAVE a Divine nature in       >>> having been made a new creation. A full and driving force with all its       >>> attributes for all who walk in the spirit.       >>>       >>> Those who attempt to revive the old carnal nature are living in their       carnal       >>> dead self. Seeking to live in the old, while pretending to live or dwell in       >>> spiritual things. Living in the old dead carnal self and reshaping the will       >>> of God to conform to their old dead self, is to dwell in sin. They attempt       >>> to       >>> conform the will of God per their self righteous desires having not       >>> committed       >>> themselves to God the Father and now place themselves over that of a       >>> ’sovereign God’.       >>>>>       >>>>> Instead, believers experience unity with God in the sense of communion       >>>>> and shared fellowship. 2 Peter 1:4 explains that believers become       >>>>> "partakers of the divine nature," not by becoming God but by escaping       >>>>> the corruption of the world and reflecting God's character. This union       >>>>> brings transformation into Christlikeness (Romans 8:29) and aligns       >>>>> believers with God's purposes, but it preserves the Creator-creature       >>>>> distinction.       >>>       >>> partake | pɑːˈteɪk |       >>>       >>> verb (past partook | pɑːˈtʊk |; past participle partaken |       >>> pɑːˈteɪk(ə)n |) [no object]       >>>       >>> 1 (partake of) formal, or humorous eat or drink (something): he partook of       a       >>> well-earned drink | I would be proud to partake of your pecan pie.       >>>       >>> 2 (partake in) formal, or humorous join in (an activity): visitors can       >>> partake in golfing or clay pigeon shooting.       >>>       >>> 3 (partake of) formal be characterized by (a quality): the birth of twins       >>> became an event which partook of the mythic.       >>>       >>> origin       >>>       >>> mid 16th century: back-formation from earlier partaker ‘person who takes       a       >>> part’.       >>>       >>> IOW be a full part of. Having partook.       >>>       >>> Hence, ‘we are’ the righteousness of God. We were ‘enjoined’.       >>>       >>> Those who desire their fleshly ways have not committed themselves to God       and       >>> still listen to the evil one as having a point of reason.       >>>       >>>>>       >>>>> Thus, while believers become one with Christ and share fellowship with       >>>>> God, they remain distinct beings. Their unity with God mirrors       >>>>> relational oneness rather than ontological unity—the perfect, eternal       >>>>> unity shared uniquely by the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.       >>>       >>> “If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he       >>> that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he       >>> hath not seen? And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth       God       >>> love his brother also.” (1Jn 4:20-21, KJV)       >>>       >>> 1 John 2:9(KJV) He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother,       is       >>> in darkness even until now.       >>>       >>>>>       >>>>> In short, believers do not BECOME The Eternally Self-existing GOD when       >>>>> they are made one in Christ.       >>>       >>> Where s any scripture saying that will not be? In the future will we not       >>> live       >>> and reign with Him?       >>> 2Ti 2:12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we denyhim, he also       >>> will deny us:       >>>       >>> Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection:       on       >>> such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and       of       >>> Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.       >>>       >>> We will not be greater than the Heavenly Father, yet we will be greater       than       >>> the angels. Plus be brothers with Jesus The Messiah.       >>>       >>> I write these things to counteract your distortions and downplaying of the       >>> truth of God. That you do not fully accept the Word of God is obvious by       >>> attributing the current works of God the Father through men, by His Spirit       >>> as       >>> He did in the early days, to the works of the evil one. Thus also denying       >>> the       >>> power of God and proclaiming the ceasing of the works of God and that the       >>> works of Satan yet prevail. And in fact Insisting these things before all       >>> men, even to the point of referencing these things in the Web site you       >>> proudly publish to, yet desire to remain anonymous while taking His       Position       >>> as your nym.       >>>       >>> And lastly, but yet a very important truth.       >>>       >>> Mrk 13:34 (KJV) For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who       >>> left       >>> his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work,       >>> and       >>> commanded the porter to watch.       >>>       >>> Mrk 13:35 (KJV) Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the       >>> house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the       >>> morning:       >>>       >>> Mrk 13:36 (KJV) Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.       >>>       >>> Mrk 13:37 (KJV) And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.       >>>       >>> Hence these words of the Lord.       >>>       >>> “Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to       >>> escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the       Son       >>> of man.” (Luk 21:36, KJV)       >>>       >>> So Be It.       >>>       >>> ***********************************       >>>       >>> The power to belittle the Word of God, and or His gifts given to man, has              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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